No captchas!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spinetta]

More & More Players Are Quitting Every Day!

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Make A Difference!

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Fly the NO CAPTCHA Avatar In-Game!

http://umobz.com/images/nocaptcha.gif

And/Or Use This Forum Avatar!

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Right Click on the Image and Select "Save Image As"

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EDIT:

Reports have been confirmed, and even worse, the damn things don't even make sense!


http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail4.png
http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail3.png
http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail2.png
http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail5.png
http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail.png

EPIC FAIL


CAPTCHAs are the bane of the internet. CAPTCHAs have absolutely ruined MySpace & are the reason Facebook is now much more popular than MySpace.

CAPTCHAs are a royal pain in the a**

I know this may be hard for some people to accept, but Bots are HERE TO STAY. For ANY tactic the Godfather & his crew can think of to stop them, there is already some other rogue programmer out there that's thought of it, and thought of a way around it.

On the VERY off chance the GF/crew think of something one of them hasn't, it'll take them less than 24 hours to reverse engineer it & poof there goes your hard work.

The end result?

The game is becoming less & less & less & LESS fun for people that don't use bots.

I absolutely DESPISE CAPTCHAs

I have been playing this game religously for going on 2 years - since it first launched & I swear to Gawd if I start seeing CAPTCHAS....

I'm GONE. And I know for a d*mn fact, I will NOT be the only one.

So by all means Godfather, keep shooting yourself in the foot with your absolutely futile attempts to stop bots.

And loose your most loyal players in the process.

*shakes his head again & just walks off*


More Examples:

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail7.png
http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail8.png
http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail9.png

Can you read these?

I sure can't...

[RoyLucier]

Especially after entering my phone number to STOP Captchas... there should be NO REASON for any more CAPTCHAS!!!

[LilUndertaker]

Yes, captchas have been made part of the game. I have gotten one trying to do missions and also have gotten one trying to kill off the hitlist. So the rumors are true! Be ready for a mass quitting of mobsters! :mad:

[Mendokusai Sennin]

A pity that the interent dare think that the universal solution to solving problems with bots is captcha. Even captcha can prove to fail.

Not to mention that a person's computer is a factor in regards to its processing power. Mobsters is going into even darker times

[benbailey84]

Godfather, if you wanna remove bots the remove this app. There is no possible way to completely remove bots. Personally i like it when i get into it with someone with a heal bot cause it gives me experence from hell, thanks, the unforgivers *rta* most wanted soldier {m.e.m.}

[DAVESM]

I agree, CAPTCHAS are a nuisance and don't do any good. Adding them to heal and other functions is going to be a major irritation that I, and many others, simply will not bother with.

As for Bots, it sucks ass that cheaters have to take over and ruin the game for the rest of us that actually know how to play. But I don't see any way to stop them either. Remove the accounts and they will just make more. I laugh at them, knowing they are just that weak. What annoys me more than anything, is the idiots who hitlist level 1s, trying to level them and stop new accounts from being rich at level 1. That proves they have no life and nothing better to do than aggravate other players. It's juvenile. I laugh at them too tho. lol

[MarlTheG]

With clever programming CAPTCHA's can be gotten around. The bots will adapt, while the real players will depart. End of story.

[RoyLucier]

Someone actually VOTED for CAPTCHAS?!?!?!?! WTF?? That is why so many people are switching to Facebook is because of CAPTCHAS.... KNOCK OFF THE STUPID SHIT GODFATHER BEFORE I QUIT MYSPACE ALL TOGETHER!!!

[Elvira von Zarovich]

now we have to type in captcha's to heal, do missions and attack people? i sure hope this is a temporarily thing... :mad:

[Melody Moll]

I hate to start over again but I will have to go to Facebook to play Mobsters. Captchas will make it impossible to play. I just don't deal with people who use bots. Find another way to ban them. Capture their url and ban all accounts.

[Bedlam]

I'm with you, if I have to enter captcha's to bounty hunt the hitlist riders that are using bots then yes...I will go to facebook or quit the game altogether. You don't have to be obnoxious in the ways you go about trying to remove something, just doesn't work.

[iso godfather]

I'll quit for sure

[RoyLucier]

Hey!! You can play Mobsters on Facebook!!! I never knew that!!! Maybe on there, they won't pull this CAPTCHA bullshit!!

[THE_STOOLSPRAYER]

The frickin pages take forever to load now with the avatars and the captchas. the game has become awful. I don't see why gf must continue to try and fix things that aren't broken.

I agree..no captchas

[WhatzItToYa]

I don't use bots, and I don't care if ppl use 'em or not. It's part of the game and I can still make a bot user cry, so why would I care? Captchas suck and GF betta not put that shiz on my acct or I'm history. He may think he'll make the WHINERS happy who complain about the bot users, thereby making the game better, when in reality what he's gonna do is make everyone leave, INCLUDING THE DOUCHES WHO BUY HIS PRECIOUS POINTS. We may have to stage a coup for this problem, like a mass walk-out.

GODFATHER ... U ARE RUINING THIS GAME!!! STOP LISTENING TO WHINEY LIL BABIES AND PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR CORE PLAYERS! IF YOU BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU, IT'LL BITE BACK, KEEP THIS CRAP UP AND U'LL FIND OUT THE HARD WAY! :mad::mad::mad:

[scarfacevscapone]

no captcha's.........what is everybody bitching about bot this bot that cheating this cheating that. we are playing mobsters there is no rules when mobsters war. it's a big fight and whoever has the best equipment wins. i could care less about somebody using a bot. if that's how you want to play then that's fine. but if the godfather wants to do something make a made list for nonbot users. i guarantee the numbers will be a hell of alot smaller then they are now. lol and i bet you don't see the number ones that are on there now on that list or the all timers either. no captcha's please some peeps computers are already slow enough as it is lol. thanx for your time

[scarfacevscapone]

i agree

[Killacothe OGs]

I say whatever. I also say, why would you play a game where many of the ppl who play this game are using unfair devices. That just tells me that this generation of ppl are lazy and don't like to earn anything. They will complain about the slightest hint of work, and they are not at all patient. So add as much captia as you want to GF, I dont mind, Because I'm a real man, and I don't mind a little work!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

[tahlwill]

I will be one of the people that quit. I dont care about people using bots or whatever they want to use. But if you use CAPTCHAS then I will quit!!!

Who is crying about the bots anyways? If the GF is really concerned about bots, then the GF can make his own and sell them with GF points. DUH, its mobsters.....mobsters cheat, PERIOD!!!


Yes, captchas have been made part of the game. I have gotten one trying to do missions and also have gotten one trying to kill off the hitlist. So the rumors are true! Be ready for a mass quitting of mobsters! :mad:

[RoyLucier]

I say whatever. I also say, why would you play a game where many of the ppl who play this game are using unfair devices. That just tells me that this generation of ppl are lazy and don't like to earn anything. They will complain about the slightest hint of work, and they are not at all patient. So add as much captia as you want to GF, I dont mind, Because I'm a real man, and I don't mind a little work!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

Why the hell is there an option then to put your phone number in and end CAPTCHAS then, if they just keep finding ways to enter more into the system?? Captchas slow the computer down, and are just annoying as all hell, can't even read them half the time

[tahlwill]

People like this jerk need to be banned from this game. He is not a real man, he is the type of person that complains about a game. Screaming unfair, unfrair.....

I say whatever. I also say, why would you play a game where many of the ppl who play this game are using unfair devices. That just tells me that this generation of ppl are lazy and don't like to earn anything. They will complain about the slightest hint of work, and they are not at all patient. So add as much captia as you want to GF, I dont mind, Because I'm a real man, and I don't mind a little work!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

[Please be Mobsta]

this ruins the game, definitly:mad::mad:

[KiDD KASH]

I dont know that i would quit the game if he did incorporate captchas.. but i do know that i would get on a hell of a lot less. this is almost as bad as when he decided to post our broadkasts on our pages so everyone could see.

[ultimatedefense]

I personally have received four captchas so far, twice from missions once while trying to heal and the other one while i was trying to catch a bounty which i lost by the way. As to the effectiveness of these captchas, it will be no time before the bots are upgraded to a premium version that will be captcha proof. Thanks godfather, in your attempt to appease a number of people who whined about bot users, you have helped to ruin gameplay for users all around. Please remove these things and let the game go back to normal, there is no way to rid this app of bot users and everyone else suffers because of the attempts to do so.

[Spinetta]

Confirmed, and even worse, the damn things don't even make sense!

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail.png

EPIC FAIL

[courtney36420]

I would like to know that myself.
Umm make that 4 that voted yes to the captcha

[blahman]

I was numero 4, mwahahahaha!

[courtney36420]

I should have known

[blahman]

I know, now everyone will want to change their vote to "Yes" because I voted that. I'm such a trend starter! OBEY ME! :p

[courtney36420]

umm no

[PictureofSin]

8% to 91% looks like a fairly convincing win for anti captcha. then again people said the election in 2000 was a done deal too until new votes were "discovered"

[mdntepoet]

I'll gladly fill out one captcha every thousand clicks, if it means for each time I do it, by odds another bot user is suspended. The fact so many people are downvoting it is just an admission of how many people are cheating!

yes it will slow down game play.. so? it's a chat room with some nifty little things to do that help you waste time ?!?!?!

Yes it will make it hard on people to have ridiculous numbers that no human being could ever click enough to generate... so? that's a good thing for all the honest players who do it the old fashioned way and just compete with people for their wins...

Why you're at it, why don't you put a time limit on made mens list.. weekly and yearly.. no longer all time.. That way the cheaters of the past will be gone in a month... while I'm throwing wishes out there, start logging IP addresses and service providers of bot users and shut them down so they can't play the game anymore at all, regardless of myspace account. Make it harsh enough, and the cheaters will either stop cheating or quit.

I find it hard to believe the cheaters are the largest source of income for the game, further a cheater using automation will send/request/query/transfer thousands of times more data than a human player. So even if a cheater IS a big spender, a bot user hogs the system and soaks up more resources than they are worth. From a financial standpoint if every bot user quit, and they made up 1% of the player base, but 50% of the income, the costs would still go down so much the game would be more profitable for the makers, and us legit players would really enjoy things like working broadcasts, and a level playing field.

Grow up.. I hear everyone who was telling whiners to shut up about bot use before, now crying and complaining about captcha's deal with it, go honest, or quit. All of those choices are a win for the strait up players.


For those who fear you'll have no targets left, you're actually thinking backwards. Bots take more targets off the hitlist than humans ever could hope too. So removing the bots will FILL the hitlists back up, and keep honest players who are online actually alive LONGER for you to get a shot at. Imagine that, you might have a contest again!

[ultimatedefense]

to mdntepoet, the ip idea is dumb anybody who knows what they are doing knows how to alter their ip address so that would be a very ineffective control, and even the people who didnt already, they could spend five minutes on google and know how. I dont agree with the captchas myself, they are an ineffective means of dealing with bot users and will be overcome in short style and then we will be left typing bs captchas while bot users download a new premium version of their bots that is captcha proof. And poof, we lose even more bounties because we will still be typing captchas and they will not.

[Spinetta]

I'll gladly fill out one captcha every thousand clicks, if it means for each time I do it, by odds another bot user is suspended. The fact so many people are downvoting it is just an admission of how many people are cheating!


Umm wrong. People are "downvoting" (which is not a word btw) because CAPTCHAs are annoying and we don't want to have to enter them to play a d*mn game. Having them on the Hitlist is ludicris.

I really wonder if you even bothered to read my initial post, judging by your reply, you didn't. So let me reitirate a point here: I have been playing this game since it first launched and that means BEFORE bots were even thought of.

The Hitlist has ALWAYS moved at warp speed and having to enter a CAPTCHA to use the Hitlist means the chances of actually catching a bounty by hand have gone from slim to none.


yes it will slow down game play.. so? it's a chat room with some nifty little things to do that help you waste time ?!?!?!


Huh?? Chatroom??


Yes it will make it hard on people to have ridiculous numbers that no human being could ever click enough to generate... so? that's a good thing for all the honest players who do it the old fashioned way and just compete with people for their wins...


Actually, it doesn't. I tested this theory last night just to prove my point. For the record, I do NOT use bots nor do I condone people using bots. However, last night while I slept I loaded 20 profiles onto YBH. Of those 20 - 1 - count them ONE - account was stopped by a CAPTCHA.

It is an ineffective method of "stopping" the bots and in reality is nothing more than an annoyance to the REAL players of this game.


Why you're at it, why don't you put a time limit on made mens list.. weekly and yearly.. no longer all time.. That way the cheaters of the past will be gone in a month... while I'm throwing wishes out there, start logging IP addresses and service providers of bot users and shut them down so they can't play the game anymore at all, regardless of myspace account. Make it harsh enough, and the cheaters will either stop cheating or quit.


Log IPs all day long. It takes someone that knows what they're doing all of 10 seconds (literally) to reset their IP address. Further, they can simply load up a Proxy and voila their real IP isn't even visible.

The b*tching MINORITY like you are why this CRAP has been added to the game & you need to just STFU and stop talking about crap you obviously have NO idea about.


Start
Run
cmd
<enter>
ipconfig /release
<enter>
ipconfig /renew
<enter>

POOF New IP Address



I find it hard to believe the cheaters are the largest source of income for the game, further a cheater using automation will send/request/query/transfer thousands of times more data than a human player. So even if a cheater IS a big spender, a bot user hogs the system and soaks up more resources than they are worth. From a financial standpoint if every bot user quit, and they made up 1% of the player base, but 50% of the income, the costs would still go down so much the game would be more profitable for the makers, and us legit players would really enjoy things like working broadcasts, and a level playing field.


Bots are NOT as big of a problem as the b*tching few seem to think. I bounty hunt by hand and still have a TON of cash. Currently, my main profile has over $500B sitting outside the bank. And once again, I do not use a bot nor do I condone using bots


Grow up.. I hear everyone who was telling whiners to shut up about bot use before, now crying and complaining about captcha's deal with it, go honest, or quit. All of those choices are a win for the strait up players.


This is not about "going honest or quit" it's about being a real life, non-bot using player, and being seriously annoyed at the many changes the GF has put into place simply to shut up the b*tching minority like you.


For those who fear you'll have no targets left, you're actually thinking backwards. Bots take more targets off the hitlist than humans ever could hope too. So removing the bots will FILL the hitlists back up, and keep honest players who are online actually alive LONGER for you to get a shot at. Imagine that, you might have a contest again!

Wrong bucko. Like I said above, I have been playing this game since it first launched and the Hitlist has always moved lightning fast. Having to enter a CAPTCHA guarantees you are not going to get the bounty you are after because you have to stop, try to decipher 2 barely readable words, enter the words, click the button, then go back & hit attack again, just to find - surprise surprise - they've already been whacked!!

Up until now I have had MAD respect for the creators of this game, but putting CAPTCHAs up is downright stupid and will spell the end of this game.

Much love to the GF & his crew, but ya'll need a serious cerebral sphincter extraction - and soon - or this "great game" ya'll have made is headed for a 1 way trip to loserville.

[--ZAKZ--]

if capcha start i will not play this game EVER AGAIN

[JahBorn]

Your game officially sucks now! Well, at least my PS3 will get some more use.

[TheEliteOnly]

Yes, I just LOVE entering random letter sequences!


For the slow ones, I voted no.

[mdntepoet]

One out of 20 in one night.. so in a week, 1/3 of your "bot" accounts would be suspended, I'm fine with that level of effectiveness...


No program effectively defeats captchas on the first shot, hence why they're used. There is an acceptable rate of failure with image recognition software, in this instance, one failure means suspension.. again.. it's effective.

I'm not whining at all, I didn't request it, if one of you bot using idiots took 10 seconds to read it, you'd notice that I have suggested before much BETTER ways than a captcha to prevent bot use, however simply "giving up" because it's "hard to stop" are arguments that would only be voiced by bot users.

To everyone saying you'll quit over this, GOOD PLEASE DO! quit, take your bots elsewhere, stoop hogging bandwidth and server time, the game will be nicer for those that remain!

Get over it people, you call everyone a crybaby, yet the only people I see crying right now are people who argue FOR bot use!

[mdntepoet]

oh yeah.. and for you nifty fools talking proxies.. most proxies would slow a bot user to the point it would be ineffective, for that matter denying proxies is not all that difficult...

It's also pretty easy to deny your whole range for IP addresses.. again that would be based on a person who is a serious repeat offender....


Tell me to those of you claiming "just give up" and let the bot users do whatever you wish, do you just take all your money out of the bank and set it on your front lawn? I mean, you can't really stop a thief if they're determined.. so by your same logic, just hand everything you own over now and give in!

[Lank the Tank]

One out of 20 in one night.. so in a week, 1/3 of your "bot" accounts would be suspended, I'm fine with that level of effectiveness...


No program effectively defeats captchas on the first shot, hence why they're used. There is an acceptable rate of failure with image recognition software, in this instance, one failure means suspension.. again.. it's effective.

I'm not whining at all, I didn't request it, if one of you bot using idiots took 10 seconds to read it, you'd notice that I have suggested before much BETTER ways than a captcha to prevent bot use, however simply "giving up" because it's "hard to stop" are arguments that would only be voiced by bot users.

To everyone saying you'll quit over this, GOOD PLEASE DO! quit, take your bots elsewhere, stoop hogging bandwidth and server time, the game will be nicer for those that remain!

Get over it people, you call everyone a crybaby, yet the only people I see crying right now are people who argue FOR bot use!


im sorry but you dont get suspended for using the bot, the bot just stops healing when the captcha pops up, so this will not get rid of any bot users.. you just gotta check your bots every few hours and log on and type in the captcha.. good rant though, although im pretty sure your another uless noob

[blahman]

oh yeah.. and for you nifty fools talking proxies.. most proxies would slow a bot user to the point it would be ineffective, for that matter denying proxies is not all that difficult...

It's also pretty easy to deny your whole range for IP addresses.. again that would be based on a person who is a serious repeat offender....

You're still ranting about things you don't know. I won't even touch the post above this for sake of my fingers getting sore telling you how wrong that is. But this one...allow me the pleasure. First, do you know how socks5 works? A bot going through a proxy would probably not slow down a bot unless you're talking a proxy from like China used by someone in the United states. For all people know, there could be a proxy setup by the person right next door to you. Second, there's no way the godfather is going to ban an entire ip block that's used by a certain service provider to deny access to one abusive user. He'd just ban accounts.

[The Only Aussie]

im confused i thought the godfather was all about getting people to pay for mobsters not quit the game and go broke...

[Spinetta]

One out of 20 in one night.. so in a week, 1/3 of your "bot" accounts would be suspended, I'm fine with that level of effectiveness...


You know, you are highly amusing. With this level of arrogance and ignorance, how, oh how, do you even remember to breathe? Do you have to remind yourself "in, out, in, out" - Really wouldn't surprise me.

The fact that you are so arrogant that you think your opinion - which by FAR goes against the majority vote - should be the one to prevail....just wow dude. Do the world a favor & remove yourself from the gene pool; stupidity should be painfully terminal.


No program effectively defeats captchas on the first shot, hence why they're used. There is an acceptable rate of failure with image recognition software, in this instance, one failure means suspension.. again.. it's effective.


...and you made this assumption based on what data? One failure means suspension? Do you have ANY idea how many real users would be suspended if that was true?

Here's an idea: READ MY POST THAT STARTED THIS THREAD. You will find a picture of these faulty CAPTCHAs. Lets see YOU type that in & still collect a bounty ya flippin' idiot!


I'm not whining at all, I didn't request it, if one of you bot using idiots took 10 seconds to read it, you'd notice that I have suggested before much BETTER ways than a captcha to prevent bot use, however simply "giving up" because it's "hard to stop" are arguments that would only be voiced by bot users.


Yes, you are whining. You are part of what I have come to call the "b*tching minority" or "b*tching few". A SMALL handful of users that sit & piss & moan about bots. I hate to break it to ya'll but it's not the bot user's fault that you suck at this game. It's your own, so stop looking for a scapegoat.


To everyone saying you'll quit over this, GOOD PLEASE DO! quit, take your bots elsewhere, stoop hogging bandwidth and server time, the game will be nicer for those that remain!


So, you want the vast majority of the players to quit, the Godfather to loose massive amounts of money & ultimately the game to go offline due to lack of funding.

Hmm...wow, you're a real brain aren't ya?


Get over it people, you call everyone a crybaby, yet the only people I see crying right now are people who argue FOR bot use!


Umm...here you go again with not bothering to read.

Here, let me make it bigger since you obviously haven't read it the other 5 times I've said it.


I DO NOT USE A BOT. I DO NOT CONDONE USING A BOT. I DO, HOWEVER, CONDONE PLAYING THE GAME AND NOT HAVING TO JUMP THROUGH STUPID HOOPS PUT INTO PLACE TO SHUT UP THE B*TCHING FEW!

Get it?

[Spinetta]

oh yeah.. and for you nifty fools talking proxies.. most proxies would slow a bot user to the point it would be ineffective, for that matter denying proxies is not all that difficult...


Ya know, every time you post, I think my IQ drops; I can physically feel it. To anyone out there that knows the FIRST thing about networking, you look like what you are: an idiot.

It would take someone like me all of 5 minutes to setup a VPN & connect, what n00bs like you collectively call a "proxy" - and I hate to break it to ya, it actually speeds up my internet connection, not slows it down.

Dipsh*t


It's also pretty easy to deny your whole range for IP addresses.. again that would be based on a person who is a serious repeat offender....


OH, now this one is just a PURE stroke of brilliance!

Yes, lets block out entire regions, equating to THOUSANDS of users, from accessing Mobsters to block 1 bot user!! YUUUUP THAT'LL WORK. Ate a bowl of Stupid for breakfast again eh?


Tell me to those of you claiming "just give up" and let the bot users do whatever you wish, do you just take all your money out of the bank and set it on your front lawn? I mean, you can't really stop a thief if they're determined.. so by your same logic, just hand everything you own over now and give in!

Bot users make up less than 1% of the users on this game. That, by FAR, is not enough to warrant all the changes put into place lately to stop them - due to you, the b*tching minority.

They are only a problem for the whining few that suck at Mobsters and just can't face the fact that you suck, and that it's due to a lack of skill. So rather than own up to the fact that you suck you have to go to the Godfather & blame "bots" because it couldn't possibly be due to any fault of YOURS that you missed that bounty....ooooh no, it had to have been a bot.

I'll say this much mdntepoet, you had better hope I never catch you in-game b/c I'd turn your damn death count into a Zip Code, enjoy every second of doing it & I wouldn't need a bot to do so.

[Spinetta]

*bump*

[mdntepoet]

1. I did not complain once about bot users, but I sure think it's funny how you all assume so just because I believe they're wrong and do hurt game play.

2. someone needs to do the math on how many addresses are in one 255 number block, because it's not thousands.

3. Again, more crying just because I don't think it's a bad IDEA

4. I've known of two people suspended so far out of the half a dozen I know that use bots, and it was enough the other people I know who use them are no longer using them. So in my opinion it's a win.

5. I've filled out a hand full of the captchas.. 4 to be exact, yet just got off a 3,000 win streak in 24 hours all done by hand. Big deal, one MIGHT have knocked me off a few wins early on the hitlist. So what? It's just as significant as the ONE chance out of 20 or 30 that you MIGHT make a hit that MIGHT get you a bounty IF that mobster wasn't already in a fight but you were stopped by a captcha. I might be out on a limb here, but I think at least a FEW of you crying right now can understand that if the same odds to have to fill one apply to all, then the same handicap is accross the board and it doesn't affect your win percentage. Consider that for every time you miss a CHANCE at striking, 1/20th of the rest of the population missed on one shot you tried, hence improving your odds on the others. Even if the bot isn't suspended over it, if it's off for even 10 minutes until supervised it is still IMPROVING your odds of catching.

6. I didn't start this crying thread, just responded, so turn that mirror on yourself and call yourself a crybaby. I didn't ask for captchas, or bot users, they both suck, but i'd rather see captchas than bot users. Besides it's really fun to see how much this ticks all of you off, and how suddenly you're crying worse than the people who complained the game was too hard.

7. I seriously doubt any significant portion of the PAYING players is going to quit over the occasional captcha. Most people barely even see them or hit them. So yes, quit. Most of you have already paid and have no recourse for a refund. Quit, free up space, new players will play and not mind them since they never knew what it was like before them. They'll spend money on the game and keep it going.

Did I miss anyone's points? oh, wait I missed one, I'm not sterile.. someone had to knock up your mom so you could be born!

[mdntepoet]

One last point before I forget. You claim this is the "majority" opinion that hate the captchas, yet what are we up to on the pole now, 70 people out of a million players?

Hardly the majority.

Especially considering those happy with the change are not exactly going to come here looking to bitch, only those ticked off about it (mostly bot users) are here crying about it.

You get 500,000 people to say it bothered them so much, as to sign up to this forum and post to your silly little pole, and then you can say your opinion is majority and I'm off base. The fact this thread isn't FULL of THOUSANDS of people crying about it is further proof it's either not really affecting innocent players OR it doesn't bother them enough to even complain about it formally much less quit!

[blahman]

It doesn't prove what you're insinuating at all. Members: 178,260, Active Members: 39,799. Which means there are only about 39.8k (rounded up) people who actively have 1 post or more. 69 voters is actually quiet a large amount of people in the 3 days this is up. That is about 31 people daily voting against this. And I couldn't give a damn less what you think about bots or this situation, I just hate the spread of misinformation. Which is what you've been doing in several of your posts.

[Money Maker887]

Another thread that the godfather wont read, good attempt guys but he dont care how we feel about his game anymore

[big-tony]

You get 500,000 people to say it bothered them so much, as to sign up to this forum and post to your silly little pole, and then you can say your opinion is majority and I'm off base. The fact this thread isn't FULL of THOUSANDS of people crying about it is further proof it's either not really affecting innocent players OR it doesn't bother them enough to even complain about it formally much less quit!
It's * POLL and SILENCE.. No more speaky for you..:o

[Spinetta]

1. I did not complain once about bot users, but I sure think it's funny how you all assume so just because I believe they're wrong and do hurt game play.


Maybe you need to re-read what you've said thus far? Every other word out of you has been "bot user" this and "bot user" that. I know you don't read what I have to say, but are you telling us you don't even read what YOU have to say? ....why am I not surprised?


2. someone needs to do the math on how many addresses are in one 255 number block, because it's not thousands.


Once again, talking about things you don't know the first thing about. Yes, there are 255 addresses in an IP Block. Those addresses are part of a "pool" that are randomly assigned to users as they sign on to the net. 99% of the enduser population does NOT have a Static IP and thus, yes, it would impact literally thousands.

QWest alone only utilizes 2 IP Blocks for all of the Greater Des Moines area - and they are the ONLY provider here worth mentioning & virtually everyone uses them.


3. Again, more crying just because I don't think it's a bad IDEA


Shut up, you're makin' me stupid.


4. I've known of two people suspended so far out of the half a dozen I know that use bots, and it was enough the other people I know who use them are no longer using them. So in my opinion it's a win.


And as usual, you seem to think your opinion means more than a fart in the wind. Hate to break it to ya, but it doesn't.


5. I've filled out a hand full of the captchas.. 4 to be exact, yet just got off a 3,000 win streak in 24 hours all done by hand. Big deal, one MIGHT have knocked me off a few wins early on the hitlist. So what? It's just as significant as the ONE chance out of 20 or 30 that you MIGHT make a hit that MIGHT get you a bounty IF that mobster wasn't already in a fight but you were stopped by a captcha. I might be out on a limb here, but I think at least a FEW of you crying right now can understand that if the same odds to have to fill one apply to all, then the same handicap is accross the board and it doesn't affect your win percentage. Consider that for every time you miss a CHANCE at striking, 1/20th of the rest of the population missed on one shot you tried, hence improving your odds on the others. Even if the bot isn't suspended over it, if it's off for even 10 minutes until supervised it is still IMPROVING your odds of catching.


The point we're chasing here, if you actually care to think OUTSIDE your small little box, is that the CAPTCHAs do NOTHING to stop the bots. In fact, there's already a beta of YBH out that bypasses them altogether.

It does, however, annoy the hell out of "Human" users.


6. I didn't start this crying thread, just responded, so turn that mirror on yourself and call yourself a crybaby. I didn't ask for captchas, or bot users, they both suck, but i'd rather see captchas than bot users. Besides it's really fun to see how much this ticks all of you off, and how suddenly you're crying worse than the people who complained the game was too hard.


I'm complaining b/c I'm tired of these stupid ass changes to the game designed to shut up the b*tching minority. I have played this game damn near every single day for going on 2 freakin' years & now, it's not fun anymore; all because of a small handful of users that have to piss & moan until they get their way.

So guess what? It works for them, so now I'm going to try it. I WANT MY "FUN" GAME BACK!!!!!!!!!


7. I seriously doubt any significant portion of the PAYING players is going to quit over the occasional captcha. Most people barely even see them or hit them. So yes, quit. Most of you have already paid and have no recourse for a refund. Quit, free up space, new players will play and not mind them since they never knew what it was like before them. They'll spend money on the game and keep it going.


Actually, I have plenty of recourse for a refund - it's called a Chargeback.


Did I miss anyone's points? oh, wait I missed one, I'm not sterile.. someone had to knock up your mom so you could be born!

Wow, what are you, 12?

[Spinetta]

One last point before I forget. You claim this is the "majority" opinion that hate the captchas, yet what are we up to on the pole now, 70 people out of a million players?


People in general are lazy. You've never worked in Customer Service have you? Obviously not.


Hardly the majority.

Especially considering those happy with the change are not exactly going to come here looking to bitch, only those ticked off about it (mostly bot users) are here crying about it.


I have yet to speak with a single person "happy with the change" other than your dumba**


You get 500,000 people to say it bothered them so much, as to sign up to this forum and post to your silly little pole, and then you can say your opinion is majority and I'm off base. The fact this thread isn't FULL of THOUSANDS of people crying about it is further proof it's either not really affecting innocent players OR it doesn't bother them enough to even complain about it formally much less quit!

It's "poll" - where did you go to school, Dumba**es-R-Us? The votes speak for themselves, especially considering this thread is in an out-of-the-way place on the forums that does not get a lot of traffic.

CAPTCHAs are just yet another step in the WRONG direction taken by the Godfather. This game is really starting to suck & ultimately that's what's pissing me off. He's ruining the game and needs to pull his head out of his a** and realize that.

You may think it's fine & dandy that some of the oldest players are ready to quit playing altogether b/c of the amount of lame a** changes lately; but all this shows is you have no concept of Loyalty.

[Spinetta]

It's * POLL and SILENCE.. No more speaky for you..:o

LOL Cheers!

[Spinetta]

This sh*t has SERIOUSLY GOT TO GO!!!!

http://www.umobz.com/images/captcha_fail2.png

Where the HELL is the 1/2 key??

And no, entering "1/2" did not work.

[GreyB]

Well ... The game has grown ... With all the Bot B/S etc etc it is/was growing ..... I like the hunter/rider fights and do believe that the game was just fine the way it was ... FUN TO PLAY ... No b/s just straight up game play .... It was never easy to get a bounty .... It was never easy to ride .... But it was FUN to try ... Now u simply cant .... Thats going to take the FUN out of the game and then the game will die ..... Much of the new stuff is GREAT but the 7 day freeze , Heal limit , Bounty limit , Captcha .... Well ,,, They simply .... Suck .... Just my 2 cents ....

[JiMiZnHB]

The CAPTCHA'S have Started on My Mob$ter Account$... the GodFather even BANNED one of MY ACCOUNT$, I think for Continually Refre$hing the Page & Trying the action over again EVERY time the CAPTCHA came UP!!! $o it lOOk$ like I WILL BE QUITTING MOB$TER$!!! NO MONEY to the GODFATHER for FAVOR POINT$.. Oh well, it wa$ FUN while the FUN LA$TED!!!

[Los MaraVilla]

Especially after entering my phone number to STOP Captchas... there should be NO REASON for any more CAPTCHAS!!!

Yup I punched in my phone number and behold the next day I was getting Captcha on myspace... Total bullshit

[sm0kin gunz]

Especially after entering my phone number to STOP Captchas... there should be NO REASON for any more CAPTCHAS!!!
that didnt even work for me

[mr ruggiero]

This captcha bs is pretty lame. I have to hit captcha after I was listed a few times... it's ridiculous!

[THE DEMON]

Guess what I found out from reliable sources?(botters)
Bots are still botting only more careful!
Manually while running they actually saying the captchas help them!
Is this true?

[Spinetta]

http://www.umobz.com/images/captcha_fail3.png

I am soooo not amused...

[du mob]

Captchas suck.. No more captchas

[Please be Mobsta]

BUMPno more captcha!!!!!!!!!!!

[chibiman]

wow man... those pics the OP posted... that is so lame that they're like that... nearly impossible to do correctly... i hate captcha's lke that.

[Spinetta]

http://www.umobz.com/images/captcha_fail4.png

If this is supposed to be a joke, I am not amused.

[Spinetta]

wow man... those pics the OP posted... that is so lame that they're like that... nearly impossible to do correctly... i hate captcha's lke that.

Nearly, hell. Unless you know CHARMAP by heart, you're pretty much screwed.

This ROYALLY sucks!!!

[Spinetta]

The biotts users brought this on in terms of service states no botts or automation, you all kept using them so you brought it on not the ones complaining about them

I love it when people reply to a thread and don't bother reading anything else already said....it's great.

FAIL

[CHRISTHACROOK]

I swear the idiots come out of the wood work here! Im gettin little helmets for the few that think these captchas are a good idea and I will be giving the short bus directions to pick you up.

The game was fine the way it was before, hence changing it is illogical. And to those who do not agree then explain how it became the number 1 app on myspace? I'm all ears. Like anything in life there is going to be some give and take, but in all honesty players using bots are probably well over 50% of the income from this game.

I dare say all of the riders are using bots. Most of the hard hitting riders have over 1000 hired guns. So at $5 a piece which they are if purchased 1 at a time or rather 21 points at a time...your talking about alot of $5,000 accounts, none of them happy about the changes.

Now unless non bot users plan to start blowing obscene amounts of money on this app, I'd suggest that you quit complaining and quit asking for these changes. If I put $5,000 into a game I would expect to be catered to, much quicker than someone who has paid nothing.

It is much like a restaurant who is going to receive better service...the louse who comes in ordering nothing but water yet expects his glass to remain full or the guest who brings the entire family and splurges what he has saved.

To belittle people because of how they play is childish and is part of the reason I believe this app should have an age limit or a minimum IQ in order to play.

But to those who believe the captchas are a good idea or that bots are such a terrible thing I wish to remind you that without the bots and without the people spending money on this app it would not still be here.

In conclusion my suggestion to those who are not happy with the captchas, do as I have done. Do not purchase favor points and do not do the free surveys, as they too allow PLAYDOM to profit from the game. Hit the app creators where it hurts. This alone is the way to get the message across that this is OUR app and we want it back the way it was when it became the number 1 app on Myspace.

[CHRISTHACROOK]

I love it when people reply to a thread and don't bother reading anything else already said....it's great.

FAIL
Im new to this forum but if u can PC me your URL's Id appreciate it...I dig yor swag

[nick walsh]

eVen know i havnt had i captcha yet i would HATE them

[blahman]

A lot of the "over 1k hired guns" riders have left before this captcha system had taken place. And some of them were banned for like 30 years or some shit. Not many people really give a damn about those people and it's stupid to think that a.) they all don't like this idea, b.) that people actually spent that much money on it (I do agree some may have, but the chance of the many obscenely rich people here is slim as the recent banning has proved), and c.) that the person who spends the most money should have a voice over others. You're ideas are tyrannical and in the wrong way. The godfather is the tyrant and he attempts to cater to as many voices as possible, you want to know why? Because the more people come here, the more traffic Myspace generates and the more Myspace will give for it. You're 1k hired gun riders can just sit down and shut the hell up because unless they rally lots of support, their opinion means just as much as the poor person who lives outside and just wants a glass of water.

[dravensteel311]

10.68% to 89.32%. Will the godfather listen? Thats what i want to see. as far for me haven't seen it, so if it something to stop cheating i'm all for it, but if it doesnt work, then toss it.

[mdntepoet]

the survey even hit 1% of the player base then it should possibly be taken into consideration.

At the number of votes places, it's easy to say 50 bot users came here and complained with the poll, the other 999,950 players are not bothered by the captcha enough to even visit the forum over it.


All the banned players are cheaters who used credit card fraud to get their hired guns. (even if the application IS stupid enough to accept an invalid card number, they still consented to a purchase with an illegitimate credit card they did not intend on paying for.) Show me a player who actually SPENT 5,000$ on a simple game like this, and I'll show you a voice that is not intelligent enough to matter in the decision making progress. Anyone willing to throw 5,000$ away on an online game, should instead consider doing something of impact or value with that money.

The majority of the income for this game will be from the average users. The hundreds of thousands who put a few dollars in here and there. With the number of subscribers to this game, if they all spend 5$ once a year on average, the game has a great income which would not suffer even a small dent from the one or two customers who might have spent 5,000$ plus on it. Games like this must appeal to the masses in order to be profitable.

I still like the idea of a "premium" account like many other game servers have. where for say 10 g/f points you can earn stamina/health/energy/income 50% faster for the month. I think many people who previously do not pay for g/f points would make a small donation as such for the added playing time they get. I think the total income generated by mass small purchases will easily out perform the few big spenders.

[blahman]

More than 100 people voted, that's a fairly large percent considering the active amount of users is close to 40k, which would be people with 1 post or more. If you don't ever look at broadcasts or have a small mob size, you would of seen the amount of complaining and rebroadcasts that went out in-game. Just because a person plays the game, doesn't mean their going to spend their time complaining on the forums here. Every one of your "this isn't enough people" always has a percentile change and never does it have any logical sense to it. However, this premium service isn't that bad of an idea.

[Please be Mobsta]

well if the godfather wants the mobster population to decrease, then he won't change it. MANY people are deciding to leave mobsters because of the way its heading. also, if the godfather wont listen to the players, his salary will just drop

[N I G H T M A R E]

the game hasnt even been out a complete year and u played for 2? wow u must be special to have gotten that opportunity

[Pimpdaddy]

I say whatever. I also say, why would you play a game where many of the ppl who play this game are using unfair devices. That just tells me that this generation of ppl are lazy and don't like to earn anything. They will complain about the slightest hint of work, and they are not at all patient. So add as much captia as you want to GF, I dont mind, Because I'm a real man, and I don't mind a little work!!!!!!!!!!!:cool:

EPIC FAIL


you suck

[Pimpdaddy]

Ya know, every time you post, I think my IQ drops; I can physically feel it. To anyone out there that knows the FIRST thing about networking, you look like what you are: an idiot.

It would take someone like me all of 5 minutes to setup a VPN & connect, what n00bs like you collectively call a "proxy" - and I hate to break it to ya, it actually speeds up my internet connection, not slows it down.

Dipsh*t



OH, now this one is just a PURE stroke of brilliance!

Yes, lets block out entire regions, equating to THOUSANDS of users, from accessing Mobsters to block 1 bot user!! YUUUUP THAT'LL WORK. Ate a bowl of Stupid for breakfast again eh?



Bot users make up less than 1% of the users on this game. That, by FAR, is not enough to warrant all the changes put into place lately to stop them - due to you, the b*tching minority.

They are only a problem for the whining few that suck at Mobsters and just can't face the fact that you suck, and that it's due to a lack of skill. So rather than own up to the fact that you suck you have to go to the Godfather & blame "bots" because it couldn't possibly be due to any fault of YOURS that you missed that bounty....ooooh no, it had to have been a bot.

I'll say this much mdntepoet, you had better hope I never catch you in-game b/c I'd turn your damn death count into a Zip Code, enjoy every second of doing it & I wouldn't need a bot to do so.

i completely agree with you. everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to him.

[mdntepoet]

1. If it's so easy, you're doing it already, and have no issues.

2. If it's so easy to get around it with a bot, you'd already be using it.

3. My mobster doesn't suck, not one of my account's "suck" I never once complained in here about it. So not only is your argument off base, but just plain incorrect. The only one BITCHING in here is YOU. I'm defending the changes made as valuable effort and really not as bad as you make it out to be. In fact of the 4500 + in my mob, most of which play daily only a few complained about it at all. Why? because the majority of people I associate with are not using bots. Those that are, understand that it may or may not work and do not cry about it.

4. Far too many of the honest players I know that bounty hunt are doing better since it was put in.

5. You're an idiot, why? because if you had 2 cents worth of understanding on how odds work, you'd understand that every one else is getting hit by them roughly the same % of times you are. So for every attempt it "slows you down" it took that same percentage of people off another target of opportunity improving YOUR odds on the targets you do get to hit. It does however "pause" bot users until they manually start it back up, even if it does not ban them. This takes the NUMBER of illegitimate competitors at any point in time and decreases it. Hence why any FAIR player could care less about filling it in a few times a day, but bot users complain since it can't run all day un-attended.

6. Your childish attempts at insults do not strengthen your argument, nor does your constant crying. You complain about others crying, yet this thread is primarily YOU crying OVER AND OVER about how much they're hurting YOUR feelings and YOUR ability to play the game.

7. 100 voters on a poll, with to quote you "40,000 active members" is still not even a portion of a significant percentage of the target demographic. Especially considering the poll thread's biased title and choices. If you changed it to a choice between " I support further attempts to block bot users using captchas so that we may lift in game hitlist limits" or "Hell no, I like to cheat using bots and if you try to stop them, I won't be successful in the game if I have to do it myself" the poll might run the other way. By the tone of this thread, I have a feeling if all those crying were hones, they'd still vote the same way because the only reason to cry like this over a captcha a few times a day is if you ARE IN FACT using bots.

If it was incorporated into the game where each player had to vote at next log on, then you might get a closer to honest answer, that is until some script kiddie like yourself bothered to sign up 10,000 accounts just to skew the poll. Since you're such a mastermind at manipulating the web!

I hope you go cry yourself to sleep over it right before you quit and do us all the favor. I"m not loosing any sleep over them, my stats are better than ever, I have just as much fun in the game as I ever have, and no my fingers did not suddenly fall off when I had to fill out a captcha tonight!

[blahman]

Well first, I'm not sure who you're calling a skript kiddie, nor do I care because we both know that you don't know the first thing about how a captcha system actually works server-side or how a person would go about 'defeating' it client-side. So any attempts at insulting me via that terminology is just moot. As for this 100 to 40k percentile. If you actually understood how an argument worked that didn't spew from your mindless rants than maybe you would understand how this actually plays into the argument here. That means that there's way more players, but only 40k people made an attempt to have 1 post in this forum. Which means, out of the couple of hundred thousand active players, only 40k people made an attempt at something, such as bitching, on this forum. And no one, not you nor I, know why the others have not. And more than 100 people voting in 1 poll is almost epic on these forums. However, if you would take the time to look around instead of seeing what you can argue against, MAYBE you would actually realize this.

[Please be Mobsta]

Take the captcha off gf

[Spinetta]

Just an update - I've been told that the new YBH is out, and it bypasses the CAPTCHAs completely.

So once again, the CAPTCHAs are EPIC FAIL

[Spinetta]

the game hasnt even been out a complete year and u played for 2? wow u must be special to have gotten that opportunity

I do so love it when people talk out of their asses. The game came out almost 2 years ago, hence why I've been playing for going on, 2 years.

Just because you heard about it less than a year ago, does not mean it has only been out that long - or, what, do you think the game didn't start until you joined it?

[Spinetta]

And more than 100 people voting in 1 poll is almost epic on these forums. However, if you would take the time to look around instead of seeing what you can argue against, MAYBE you would actually realize this.

Couldn't have said it better myself....so I'll quote it instead :D

[markfuckinrobinson]

I thought in the US you can enter your phone number or something to stop captchas. In Australia we can't even do that. And **** the godfather he still hasn't fixed my account I should be in Made Men list for my state but I am not in shit.

[Stabbin Sara]

HEY why doesn't the GF just make BOT legal?? If you truely want to control something ~ put it under your control. Fix it so BOTS can only play with BOTS. Level the playing field. STOP punishing the folks that are botless with BS. Mobsters is on FACEBOOK??Hmm. I will have to check that out. I will log off Myspace forever rather that deal with Captcha's

[Stabbin Sara]

btw~mdntepoet~ Don't ASSUME that only bot users Hate Captcha's. I am Totally Botless. Been playing for two years.
I Hate Captcha's. Won't even add a mobbie unless they drop the BS. Screw "slowing Down" the bot user. It also Slows down the peeps w/no bots AND it is a pain in the butt. The GF could actually Make money off of this app if he had his own bot site AND have more control over the issue. Does the GF Even READ this forum or is it just mobbies bitching at mobbies. Start posting the issue in b/c. More people need to know.Not everyone takes the time to stop and read our dribble. Its kind of like political elections. Everyone bitches nobody gets involved.

[Stabbin Sara]

Also bots don't slow me down. Health bot ~ punching bot ~ whatever... I have had many bot users back down simply because I know the game. You have three choices when fighting with a bot: 1) Play the Game 2) Change the Rules 3) Choose Not to play the game. I also have Friends with bots whom I like a lot. They try not to be abusive with them. Its the people that show up posting nasty crap out of nowhere ~ trying to get hit listed, that fry everyone's ass. Still think the GF should make them available for purchase...we purchase favor points why not bots?? They don't hamper true players.:D MOB ON!!

[Spinetta]

They don't hamper true players.:D MOB ON!!

*tips his hat* well said. Like I've been saying, it seems to be only the people that suck at this game that have the "problem" with "bots".

[Pimpdaddy]

I do so love it when people talk out of their asses. The game came out almost 2 years ago, hence why I've been playing for going on, 2 years.

Just because you heard about it less than a year ago, does not mean it has only been out that long - or, what, do you think the game didn't start until you joined it?

the game hasnt been out a year yet. the aniversay is in a month or so

[Spinetta]

the game hasnt been out a year yet. the aniversay is in a month or so

I launched the first mob add train, PartyHearty, over a year ago (I know this, as I just had to pay to re-new the 1 year registration 2 months ago) several months after I started playing. I've seen a few people saying the 1 year anniversary is coming up & I have no idea where ya'll are getting your info, because you're wrong ;)

P.S. I also love the people that go through this thread and reply to the 1 thing they think they can argue with. What is with people's apparent need to start pissing contests on forums?

[Pimpdaddy]

I launched the first mob add train, PartyHearty, over a year ago (I know this, as I just had to pay to re-new the 1 year registration 2 months ago) several months after I started playing. I've seen a few people saying the 1 year anniversary is coming up & I have no idea where ya'll are getting your info, because you're wrong ;)

P.S. I also love the people that go through this thread and reply to the 1 thing they think they can argue with. What is with people's apparent need to start pissing contests on forums?

im not aurguing. im telling my info. my mobster is exactly 349 days old. and i remember when i created my mobster that it said mobsters the new app that will break ur kneecaps.or something along the lines of that.

[Spinetta]

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail5.png

And NO Godfather, Adding Smiley Faces will not make us any more happy to see them.

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail6.png

[Spinetta]

im not aurguing. im telling my info. my mobster is exactly 349 days old. and i remember when i created my mobster that it said mobsters the new app that will break ur kneecaps.or something along the lines of that.

Umm how exactly do you know how old your mobster is? Last I checked, it doesn't display a date of birth.

[-jay-]

im glad this was added , until the bots/healers stop this wont be going any where


thanks god father

[Spinetta]

im glad this was added

Why, exactly? It hasn't done a damn thing to stop the bots, all it does is slow down normal game play.

[Pimpdaddy]

Umm how exactly do you know how old your mobster is? Last I checked, it doesn't display a date of birth.

uh have u ever heard of i cant tell u in the forums i will send u a private e-mail

[-jay-]

well from playdom they are not removing it what so ever they got tired of bot users abusing the game so they had to do what they had to do if people do not like it blame the bot users

like i said im glad they added it but its also not fair for the non bot users

[Spinetta]

well from playdom they are not removing it what so ever they got tired of bot users abusing the game so they had to do what they had to do if people do not like it blame the bot users

like i said im glad they added it but its also not fair for the non bot users

Like I said, it has not done a damn thing to stop the bot users, all it does is slow down normal game play.

As far as Playdom saying anything about it, I have yet to read any official release from them saying anything one way or another. One thing is for certain, the vast majority of the forum community has spoken out AGAINST CAPTCHAs.

We do not want it & they need to remove it.

If they continue to increase as I've been seeing, my next step will be to utilize the 7 Mobster Fan Sites I own, boasting a userbase of over 80,000 Registered Members, to organize a boycott on Favor Points.

I, for one, am sick and tired of Playdom catering to the whining, bitching minority and completely ignoring the requests of the people that have been playing this game since it's inception and are THE reason it is the #1 App on MySpace.

It's high time they show some gratitude for the work WE have done, to make them rich.

In all the time I have been playing I have not complained about anything, other than one time asking that the BCs get fixed (which, in over a year, has never happened).

Yet these n00bs come on here, piss & moan that they suck at the game, blame "bots" and presto, Playdom is more than happy to put a pacifier in their mouth shaped like a CAPTCHA.

I have been a quiet, respectful player of this game for a long time, and now they've finally managed to piss me the hell off. It's crap & one way or another they are coming down if I have ANYTHING to say about it.

[addicttt93]

i've never seen captchas on mobsters since i've start using it, but then again, that has only been a few months.
but what about that thing Myspace came out with to remove captchas for real people?? if people would just do that, then they wouldn't have to worry about captchas. that's probably why i never saw them.

[Spinetta]

i've never seen captchas on mobsters since i've start using it, but then again, that has only been a few months.
but what about that thing Myspace came out with to remove captchas for real people?? if people would just do that, then they wouldn't have to worry about captchas. that's probably why i never saw them.

That doesn't work on Mobsters, as has been said about 5 times in this thread ;)

[Spinetta]

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail7.png

Can anyone tell me wtf that is supposed to say?

[Pimpdaddy]

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail7.png

Can anyone tell me wtf that is supposed to say?

its says captchas suck ass

[Spinetta]

its says captchas suck ass

oooooooh thank you for the clarification! LOL :D

[ch41n g4ng]

i am sick of the capatcha shit. its stupid and time consuming.

[mdntepoet]

It has been out for more than a year, my main account is over a year old. I can look at the notification from when I was invited for proof. Or you can check a certain site which displays the age of any mobster.

My players do not suck. All of my profiles have great stats, are very hard to beat, and serve their purposes/goals in each case. I've been on this game longer than most of you have. I was one of the first few to play it in fact.


100 people is epic for this forum because this forum does not represent the majority of players. This forum really consists more of players crying at each other than any real input. This POLL is a joke as it doesn't significantly sample the actual user base. If these were really such a great concern to the average player there would be a FLOOD of results. You haven't even hit 1/100th of 1% yet. Keep dreaming on being the majority of players opinions.

one person, in my main account of over 3,000 players disagrees they'll help. ALL of my bounty hunter friends are doing BETTER with them than before. Those who understand math/odds/statistics also understand that it slows all legitimate players equally, therefor giving you a higher chance of success on the strikes you do get, and removing even if only for short unattended periods the automated players. No bot as of yet cracks them, and it's been out for over a week. Many bot users simply get paused until they return. that in it's self is a victory as it keeps someone from running 100 automated hunters 24/7 and "hogging" from all of the other players.

Anyone who objects to filling them out the whole 1-4 times an hour you get them so much as to quit playing is either not serious at all about success (and wouldn't have bought favor points anyway) Lying about cheating, Or just being the same "cry baby" that you all call the people b!tch!ng about bots.

Personally I like people running heal bots. They make easy targets, and don't have much room to complain when I over attack them for hours on end when they leave it unattended. I think they deserve it and there really isn't much they can say about it. what are they going to do? he attacked me for 5 hours strait and I didn't notice it because my heal bot was on? good luck with that plea for help! But I do believe automated ATTACK programs of any form are an unfair method of play especially on something such as bounties which are much like playing the lottery. If they sanctioned them, and hence set it fair, I wouldn't object at all. I do think filling out captchas sucks, but I'd rather have them, and fill them out the once in a great while they pop up, than not have them.

The fact so many of you who I also see out there in the game running bots are crying about it, is proof enough for me they're working. So either stop your crying/B!tch!ng and put on your big boy pants, or quit. That's the choices you give any other dissenting voices in this forum. I'm just glad to see all of you displaying the SAME behavior you criticize others for!

[Spinetta]

It has been out for more than a year, my main account is over a year old. I can look at the notification from when I was invited for proof. Or you can check a certain site which displays the age of any mobster.


Wow, we agree on something, I am thoroughly amazed.


My players do not suck. All of my profiles have great stats, are very hard to beat, and serve their purposes/goals in each case. I've been on this game longer than most of you have. I was one of the first few to play it in fact.


You've said this, what 2 or 3 times now? If it wasn't true, you wouldn't feel such a need to defend them.


100 people is epic for this forum because this forum does not represent the majority of players. This forum really consists more of players crying at each other than any real input. This POLL is a joke as it doesn't significantly sample the actual user base. If these were really such a great concern to the average player there would be a FLOOD of results. You haven't even hit 1/100th of 1% yet. Keep dreaming on being the majority of players opinions.


Yup, that's the way to rally people to your cause, insult the forum community as a whole! w00t! Good job!


one person, in my main account of over 3,000 players disagrees they'll help. ALL of my bounty hunter friends are doing BETTER with them than before. Those who understand math/odds/statistics also understand that it slows all legitimate players equally, therefor giving you a higher chance of success on the strikes you do get, and removing even if only for short unattended periods the automated players. No bot as of yet cracks them, and it's been out for over a week. Many bot users simply get paused until they return. that in it's self is a victory as it keeps someone from running 100 automated hunters 24/7 and "hogging" from all of the other players.


You know, you're my favorite type of Mobster. You're the type that I'll attack & then lmfao when you cry "I have a mob of 3,000 and they're going to come for you" - and then nothing happens. Out of those 3,000 there are likely less than half that are active, and of those half, there's likely 10 or less that you actually "know". So save it.


Anyone who objects to filling them out the whole 1-4 times an hour you get them so much as to quit playing is either not serious at all about success (and wouldn't have bought favor points anyway) Lying about cheating, Or just being the same "cry baby" that you all call the people b!tch!ng about bots.


Do you realize that you switch trains of thought every other post?


Personally I like people running heal bots. They make easy targets, and don't have much room to complain when I over attack them for hours on end when they leave it unattended. I think they deserve it and there really isn't much they can say about it. what are they going to do? he attacked me for 5 hours strait and I didn't notice it because my heal bot was on? good luck with that plea for help! But I do believe automated ATTACK programs of any form are an unfair method of play especially on something such as bounties which are much like playing the lottery. If they sanctioned them, and hence set it fair, I wouldn't object at all. I do think filling out captchas sucks, but I'd rather have them, and fill them out the once in a great while they pop up, than not have them.


And you continue to think that your opinion, which goes against the majority vote, should be the one to prevail. So, let me get this straight, you'd rather have CAPTCHA, which has done NOTHING to stop the bots, than not have them - even though they've done NOTHING to stop the bots?


The fact so many of you who I also see out there in the game running bots are crying about it, is proof enough for me they're working. So either stop your crying/B!tch!ng and put on your big boy pants, or quit. That's the choices you give any other dissenting voices in this forum. I'm just glad to see all of you displaying the SAME behavior you criticize others for!

As usual you are busy spouting claims you can not substantiate. I can only speak for myself here, but I do not use a bot & as far as b*tching - oh you bet ya, that is exactly my intention with this thread.

It has worked soooooooo well for the whining few, so I decided to try it. As I said in an earlier post, I have remained silent and not complained about a damn thing, even though there have been quite a few changes to the game that I disagree with. I will not, however, sit here quiety while Playdom runs this game into the ground. I have invested far too much time, resources and money into this game to do so.

On a side note, you must really have no life; to have the need to come here, say the same baseless claims over & over & over & over.....just wow dude. Get a life.

[xxz24zxx]

Yes, captchas have been made part of the game. I have gotten one trying to do missions and also have gotten one trying to kill off the hitlist. So the rumors are true! Be ready for a mass quitting of mobsters! :mad:


ABSOLUTELY AGREE! I think soooooooooooo many are going to quit! ;(

[Ajiryn]

I swear the idiots come out of the wood work here! Im gettin little helmets for the few that think these captchas are a good idea and I will be giving the short bus directions to pick you up.

Hiya.

The game was fine the way it was before, hence changing it is illogical. And to those who do not agree then explain how it became the number 1 app on myspace? I'm all ears.

This is what I like to attribute to 'overpopulation'. We didn't need them in the past because there were fewer idiots back then.

Sure, now it's the number one app. (WOOHOO!) But, that means, yes kids, more idiots. (I can hardly imagine the time when they'll start breeding. Dear god, help us all.)

I dare say all of the riders are using bots. Most of the hard hitting riders have over 1000 hired guns. So at $5 a piece which they are if purchased 1 at a time or rather 21 points at a time...your talking about alot of $5,000 accounts, none of them happy about the changes.

This happens all the time- it's called 'investing'.

Hear about GM? Yeah. They ain't happy either.

No one told them to throw their money into it, and neither did the GodFather with his favor points.

Now unless non bot users plan to start blowing obscene amounts of money on this app, I'd suggest that you quit complaining and quit asking for these changes. If I put $5,000 into a game I would expect to be catered to, much quicker than someone who has paid nothing.

Once again, it's a game. So's poker. And gabacho morons still toss a crap load of money into that, why would Mobsters be an exception?

If it exists, someone has blown a fortune on it.

It is much like a restaurant who is going to receive better service...the louse who comes in ordering nothing but water yet expects his glass to remain full or the guest who brings the entire family and splurges what he has saved.

False analogy, kids. The 'nothing but water' person would be more like those level one accounts we always see- not the normal people.

Besides, who doesn't love beating on a low level person who left the game long ago? They're not fighting back. And yes, the 'nothing but water' guy?

The whole restaurant is laughing at him anyways, even if he can't see it.

To belittle people because of how they play is childish and is part of the reason I believe this app should have an age limit or a minimum IQ in order to play.

Age limits won't work, because we'll just get children lying about their ages, like they probably do on all the other age-limited sites. >_> If there is a way to really block them out of the game, I'd support it.

And I already see enough players on Mobsters with 'minimum I.Q.' anyways. They'd whine. They'd complain. They beef themselves up and start a flame war. But face it- idiots are everywhere. And where there is a barrier, they will somehow overcome it. (If we have bots that can play Mobsters, there will be one to overcome the I.Q. barrier easily.)

But to those who believe the captchas are a good idea or that bots are such a terrible thing I wish to remind you that without the bots and without the people spending money on this app it would not still be here.

Of course it would. A real, full time 700-staffed online game requires lotsa moo-lah to run. But remember how Mobsters started off- Free.

And besides, why would a FREE GAME not remain on a FREE SITE after the money gets cut off?

In conclusion my suggestion to those who are not happy with the captchas, do as I have done. Do not purchase favor points and do not do the free surveys, as they too allow PLAYDOM to profit from the game. Hit the app creators where it hurts.

You can't blame them for making a profit- heck, if I had to manage and soothe thousands of app players, I'd like a drink too- and after a day of reading most of the forums comments, who WOULDN'T need a drink?

Sad reality? Drinks cost.

'Hitting the creators where it hurts' is a toughie. It's not like they are a video game company and rely on your money for payroll. If you cut off the money, the GodFather ain't gonna lose his house or anything. Only someone really desperate would count on an app's money for actual salary.

This alone is the way to get the message across that this is OUR app and we want it back the way it was when it became the number 1 app on Myspace.

Idiot free?

I await my short-bus directions.

[Spinetta]

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail8.png

What's your take on this one? I'm pretty sure it says "Die CAPTCHA Die" but I'm not sure.

[Spinetta]

I await my short-bus directions.

The directions are:

Over the river & through the woods, to Mobtard's house we go!

[Spinetta]

no u got it all wrong..it says KILL CAPTCHAS WITH FIRE!

Fire! Fire! Yeah! Yeah! FIREEEEEEEEEE

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail8-fire.png

Yes....I am extremely bored. Why? Because my favorite passtime has become a royal pain in the ass & I have no desire to play.

This sucks :(

[Spinetta]

Support The Cause!

Fly the NO CAPTCHA Avatar In-Game!

http://umobz.com/images/nocaptcha.gif

Right Click on the Image and Select "Save Image As"

[Spinetta]

http://umobz.com/images/captcha_fail9.png

FAIL!!!

[luckyduckfromkentuck]

my account was suspended for nothing..I'm not a bot..I don't even know or care about bots...Now I can't even play...what is going on? I guess I'm forced into quitting!!!

[Spinetta]

my account was suspended for nothing..I'm not a bot..I don't even know or care about bots...Now I can't even play...what is going on? I guess I'm forced into quitting!!!

Oh, that can't possibly be true! The Godfather says that CAPTCHAs will only affect bots & we "should not worry"

(yes, I am being seriously SaRcAsTiC here)

[Spinetta]

Change Your Forum Avatars!

SAY NO TO CAPTCHA!!

Use this image (or make you own :P)

http://forum.mobstersapp.com/image.php?u=1967&dateline=1245470729

Right Click & Save As

[-jay-]

ill laugh when your account gets banned the captcha is not going away

let me see i have 10 active accounts i use have i got any of these captchas nope because i dont use bots

your only making yourself more guilty by complaining just deal with it or stop playing

[rnterry]

2. Add requests are only allowed within the message body in the Add me / Join my mob! forum,
but are allowed within signatures everywhere.
* To change your signature, go to your User CP which is located on the top left of your screen and choose 'edit signature'.
Don't forget to preview it and save (http://forum.mobstersapp.com/announcement.php?f=2)

[Spinetta]

ill laugh when your account gets banned the captcha is not going away

let me see i have 10 active accounts i use have i got any of these captchas nope because i dont use bots

your only making yourself more guilty by complaining just deal with it or stop playing

Erm, as I have said multiple times, I do NOT use bots nor do I condone the use of bots. People that use bots suck & need to just unplug their computers.

I was raised to believe that the only rewards worth going after come from Hard Work.

On Mobsters or Off, I despise lazy ass people that use automated processes to get the work done for them, period.

I will not, however, roll over & let Playdom ruin this game without a fight; The phrase "Cutting off your nose, to spite your face" comes to mind.

You can go right ahead and roll over, let them scratch your belly & be a good lap dog. I'm not going to do it & if they ban me for it, so be it.

Like I said, I own 7 Mobster Fan Sites boasting a Userbase of over 80,000 Registered Mobster Players.


If they ban me from the forums, I'll just use my sites to mass email. Trying to shut me up will just add fuel to my fire. So by all means, get me banned.

The bottom line?

I work from home & when I'm not working, I play Mobsters.

A have a lot of low-level accounts that are CONSTANTLY getting CAPTCHA'd.

It's annoying as hell.

It's turned me off from playing this game.

The result?

I am bored out of my freaking mind.

I don't like being bored.

I don't like having down time.

So, I'm going to fill that down time with something.

Their choice. It can be me playing the game without these damn CAPTCHAs, or it can be me putting every resource, website, domain, programming language, server cloud and datacenter at my disposal into getting my way.

Never underestimate the determination of a Bored Gemini that knows the Internet like the back of his hand :D

[MobWaR]

my god the only game i play and ruined now and i thought getting mob members with the captchas was a pain in the ass... now this? im done with this game

[666shadows_mod_squad_boss]

I want to know y it is that i have to do captcha for healing and bounty hunting. I have no bots. You all can check my computer. I dont have one. And if i have to do 1 more im never playing again.. Ill go back to what i used to do. Hack...

[mdntepoet]

I just respond to your myrid of bitching posts, if i'm changing topics it's because you do.


It obviously is cutting down on bot use for hitlist attacks. I don't ever see it on healing at all, don't know if it even exists for it.


I keep having to say it because you keep claiming that my mobsters suck and that is why I support captchas. Actually I support captchas mainly because the tick off idiots like you who think everyone who suggests a change must suck...

You keep crying that he needs to change the game AGAIN and now remove the captchas, does that mean all your mobsters suck? the same argument applies to you. My argument against bots has nothing to do with how well I do in the game, it's purely principle based, hence why I pick on bot users.

You're an idiot when you can't recognize sarcasm this obvious "I love users running heal bots, they make easy targets" really, I know you're stupid, do you have to be THAT stupid?


I need to get a life? you're the one making a thread with a poll, organizing protests, and throwing a general cry baby hissy fit over filling out a captcha a few times a day. If it bothers you THAT much, maybe YOU need to get a life and get off the game a little.. seriously, go outside for a change, get some fresh air. See sunlight. Maybe then the 10 seconds of your life to type in two words once in a while will not seem so significant.

[Spinetta]

I just respond to your myrid of bitching posts, if i'm changing topics it's because you do.


No, I am on ONE topic here, the topic of this thread: NO CAPTCHAS


It obviously is cutting down on bot use for hitlist attacks. I don't ever see it on healing at all, don't know if it even exists for it.


Wrong again, I still get plenty of spam each & every time I'm hitlisted, regardless of level. It hasn't gone down one bit.


I keep having to say it because you keep claiming that my mobsters suck and that is why I support captchas. Actually I support captchas mainly because the tick off idiots like you who think everyone who suggests a change must suck...


You really are self centered aren't you....wow. I have not once singled YOU out. Guilty conscience maybe?


You keep crying that he needs to change the game AGAIN and now remove the captchas, does that mean all your mobsters suck? the same argument applies to you. My argument against bots has nothing to do with how well I do in the game, it's purely principle based, hence why I pick on bot users.


...this statement makes no sense.


You're an idiot when you can't recognize sarcasm this obvious "I love users running heal bots, they make easy targets" really, I know you're stupid, do you have to be THAT stupid?


lmmfao I'm stupid....yup, sure buddy. Lets see you code a mob add train from scratch. I started the original Spuko bucko. But yeah, sure, I'm stupid LMFAO


I need to get a life? you're the one making a thread with a poll, organizing protests, and throwing a general cry baby hissy fit over filling out a captcha a few times a day. If it bothers you THAT much, maybe YOU need to get a life and get off the game a little.. seriously, go outside for a change, get some fresh air. See sunlight. Maybe then the 10 seconds of your life to type in two words once in a while will not seem so significant.

As usual, you just seem to skim my posts & find the parts you can argue with.

For about the 3rd time: I work from home, and I play Mobsters during my downtime. I know this may be a foreign concept for a fry cook such as yourself, but some of us to have things called "home based offices" and "own our own companies". It's called being innovative when faced with an economic crisis.

[blu42069]

I have to agree with Spinetta.I have been knocking away bounties manually and now i get this retared excuse to stop bots!
For you ignorant puke piles......a captcha can be cracked...will be...CRACKED end of story.So if you think bot users can be stopped YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!Programmers are that PROGRAMMERS so they know what they are doing......so if you think captcha's are going to stop bot use?I will say again NO IT WON'T U MINDLESS PUKE PILES!!!!!!lmao at this guy thinking banning a block of ip's is tha easy if u ban tha one block u ban other users as well!!!!!ARE YOU THAT F**KING RETARTED?Proxies and socks 5 are very easy to come by......and these captcha's are making game play VERY slow for people tha don't use bot's.......and for this retarted comment......My argument against bots has nothing to do with how well I do in the game, it's purely principle based, hence why I pick on bot users.
For your info the more you pick on them THEY will make it in thier best interest TO RUIN YOU FROM PLAYING MOBSTERS....SO GO PLAY BARBIES OR WITH YOURSELF cause they will make it hard for you to heal when you're dead and you got to put in tha retarded captcha....and after you put that in YOU WILL HAVE MORE DEATHS BEFORE YOU PUT THAT IN!!!!!!!So quit b*tching before tey make you thier play toy for a month or so.....oh btw quit running your mouth when you don't know who you're running it too!!!!!!!!!!


Captcha's ruined the game.....Boycott the captcha's

[-jay-]

like i said its not going to happen just deal with it seriously a mod needs to lock this

[nasajd]

I am a level 426 in mobsters, have 1 account, and got my friends playing this app from the start. It has been a great ride and the changes are both good and bad. But if ever I see a captcha I will quit and I will recommend all my friends quit. That may not be many of the total users but I know I can convince at least 40 of my mob members to quit. (woop de do da day 40 out of so many right? well I will consider it a victory for finally quitting another addicting game) As for a accurate poll the only way would be to put a poll on the home page of mobsters with a simple yes or no? As for bots I believe if I really wanted a bot I could figure a way around the captchas and as for healing bots well I like to attack those guys 100+ times and kill them every other attack. As for hitlist bots I do not have any good method to attack those on the hitlist so I don't care, and as for regularly attacks I hope people use attack bots because they can attack and lose 50+ times an hour against me (I can think of a level 400 some account that accidentally used there attack bot to farm me when they switched to a save account with a level 6 who suicided repeatedly on me never damaging me)

[SoCal Joe]

Get rid of the captchas please. With all of the new changes, I am starting to dislike this game. It's like we are being punished for others actions. I would be ok if I only had to do it just once, but the repetive captcha is very annoying...I AM NOT A BOT USER!!!!

[bobthegoodone]

As the result of captchas THAT DON'T EVEN WORK ! I have been blocked from my game twice was told I gave wrong info to the sponsors I have never used the sponsors ! Then I was told I played too much ??? Guess they want everyone to quit playing the gasme

[trilvil30]

please stop the stupid captchas cant do anything with out them popin up everywhere now b/s your gonna loose alot of mobsters for this ..................trilvil4eva

[Ajiryn]

My god, 'tard-ness is rampant.

I have to agree with Spinetta.I have been knocking away bounties manually and now i get this retared excuse to stop bots!

Yes, yes, it IS something that needs a little work.

For you ignorant puke piles......a captcha can be cracked...will be...CRACKED end of story.

For anyone who has actually tried to, they know that Capt'cha cracking is:

A) Fuggin' hard.
B) Very time consuming
and C) Almost useless because a new version of Capt'cha is released, meaning they have to rinse and repeat a hella-lotta times.

Of course, giving us the 'end of the story' is reeeeeally hard when you just read the cliff notes.

So if you think bot users can be stopped YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!Programmers are that PROGRAMMERS so they know what they are doing......so if you think captcha's are going to stop bot use?

Of course not all bots will be stopped. Blocking a moving SUV with your forehead is a much easier task, for the simple fact that there is a slightly smaller number of bots in Mobsters as there are idiots. It's just not possible.

It IS however possible to lower said number, because as we've all seen before: Capt'chas generally piss off a lot of people. Pissed off people leave. So while we may not be able to completely write out bots, we can get rid of a fair percentage.

While programmers know what they're doing- believe me, we do- there's a certain degree that programmers will go before they say 'f*ck it' and turn to another thing.

And the few that DO consistently hang on board? Well, I suppose those are the ones that put a cr*p load of effort into their work, so they might as well be the ones to use it. (Let it be known that one programmer who actually cracks the capt'cha still isn't as much of a threat to us as your normal everyday mobtard.)

lmao at this guy thinking banning a block of ip's is tha easy if u ban tha one block u ban other users as well!!!!!ARE YOU THAT F**KING RETARTED?Proxies and socks 5 are very easy to come by......and these captcha's are making game play VERY slow for people tha don't use bot's.......and for this retarted comment......My argument against bots has nothing to do with how well I do in the game, it's purely principle based, hence why I pick on bot users.

Ignoring the downward trend of intelligent use of punctuation, let me sift through the cr*p to try and find the point blu is trying to make:

The first sentence is barely understandable. I can't tell if he's concerned about the blockage of an IP address- mainly because I can't locate the d*mn period separating one sentence from the next. Assuming I'm kinda close, however....

Blocking an IP address would be a inconvenience to other people that play the same game on the same computer. However, considering the location of our computers, it is unlikely this will affect a great deal of people, because we play the game from a computer that is most likely used only by us, such as:

Personal Computers / Laptop
How many people share these with another person that also plays Mobsters and aslo uses a bot? Those two judging qualifications instantly write out most of us.

Cubicle / Work Computers
Are you seriously telling me that over 1% of the Mobsters population share a computer with a co-worker who plays the exact same game and uses a bot?

Proxies are as common as over-attacking morons in the game itself. However, let's think of the online community: Think of the number of people who will actually search for the capt'cha proxy. Not very many.

Think of the people who skip step 1 and b*tch about it on the local forum.

Many. The disparity is stunning.

and for this retarted comment......

Trying not to point out that the most retarded one might be yours, let me assume (again) that you are talking about a previous post from someone else and not you.

My argument against bots has nothing to do with how well I do in the game, it's purely principle based, hence why I pick on bot users.
For your info the more you pick on them THEY will make it in thier best interest TO RUIN YOU FROM PLAYING MOBSTERS

THEY already do so, and yet, the world still goes on.

SO GO PLAY BARBIES OR WITH YOURSELF

Yay for the most overused child reference on the Mobsters forum.

Can I cite this line as a indication of how stupidity is contagious?

cause they will make it hard for you to heal when you're dead and you got to put in tha retarded captcha....and after you put that in YOU WILL HAVE MORE DEATHS BEFORE YOU PUT THAT IN!!!!!!

If you die twice because of one capt'cha, it's your fault. Typing letters is fuggin' annoying, but not impossible people.

Real cute how someone knows how to PRT SCR a snapshot of an arguably unreadable capt'cha, but little do they know that with the time they spent taking the picture they could have clicked that 'Give me another one' button and move on with it.

What's that? You got a second one, and you can't read that? Click the d*mn button again.

So quit b*tching before tey make you thier play toy for a month or so.....oh btw quit running your mouth when you don't know who you're running it too!!!!!!!!!!

...I'm not even touching that one.

I don't have my anti-stupid rubber gloves on.

Captcha's ruined the game.....Boycott the captcha's

As said before, an idiot can ruin the game far more than little itty-bitty letters can. A capt'cha requires you to type around 30 letters. An idiot wants you to read 700 while trying to decipher his god-awful typing.

Well, there you have it people- Capt'chas suck. Yes. They do.

But they're not a sign of the Devil. They just take enjoyment from the general population's inability to type '1/16' when the d*mn picture says '1/16'.

Why is it that retards always misspell 'retarded'?

[Spinetta]

I do so love it when people read 1 post and reply to it, assuming they know what the hell they're talking about.

The screen caps I've posted are of impossible to enter captchas.

To use your example "1/16" it is NOT "1/16" but rather the 1/16th symbol which you would have to hunt through Charmap to find, copy, paste etc.

As far as the rest of your dribble, I'm not even going to reply to it.

I ask again, what is it with people's incessant need to get into pissing contests on internet forums?

[blahman]

Blocking an IP address would be a inconvenience to other people that play the same game on the same computer. However, considering the location of our computers, it is unlikely this will affect a great deal of people, because we play the game from a computer that is most likely used only by us, such as:
Although I agree with a lot of what you said. He's not talking about a single ip, he's talking an ip block, such as (possibly inexistant example) 207.123.43.1-255.
Proxies are as common as over-attacking morons in the game itself. However, let's think of the online community: Think of the number of people who will actually search for the capt'cha proxy. Not very many.
Wtf is a captcha proxy? lol :p

[Ajiryn]

To use your example "1/16" it is NOT "1/16" but rather the 1/16th symbol which you would have to hunt through Charmap to find, copy, paste etc.

You must've misspelled something, or haven't bothered to try. I just ran into a '1/4 McCollough's' and got passed it by typing '1' '/' and '4'. Why they had McCollough's following it, I don't know, but needless to say I got passed that word too after typing 'McCollough's.

Wtf is a captcha proxy? lol :p

It's a misnamed code that tries to get around a certain capt'cha. Different versions of capt'chas, or different sites (some have they're own) all function within a set of possible answers. These 'proxies' (a name given to the capt'cha programs by people who think the word 'proxy' is synonymous with "Hey it gets you place on the net") fail a lot, but some can actually trick the capt'cha it's been answered with no response at all.

Off course, these take a hella-lotta programming and usually cost money, suck, or are fake and waste your time.

[zuluwarrior94]

So far, I haven't had to solve a CAPTCHA for healing, hunting or missions. But I do not like them. They are annoying; however, I also understand the intention to cut down on the bot users. Bot users are just very lazy people who want to get something by doing nothing.

So, I voted against the CAPTCHA, but only because if y'all ever include punctuation in CAPTCHA's there would be no one to play Mobsters with. Previous posts make that clear.

[blahman]

It's a misnamed code that tries to get around a certain capt'cha. Different versions of capt'chas, or different sites (some have they're own) all function within a set of possible answers. These 'proxies' (a name given to the capt'cha programs by people who think the word 'proxy' is synonymous with "Hey it gets you place on the net") fail a lot, but some can actually trick the capt'cha it's been answered with no response at all.

Off course, these take a hella-lotta programming and usually cost money, suck, or are fake and waste your time.

Well he was talking about your typical http proxy tunnel, so this "captcha proxy" didn't make sense in response. However, your example of a "captcha proxy" started off good, however brief it was and wrong way they conned "proxy" into it. A person could submit an image to a captcha proxy protocol (most often would obviously be http) by something as simple as a right click option in your browser (so you could right-click on the image and send in). The service gets it, attempts to break the captcha. Then the values would fill in the field or copy them into your clipboard would work as well. Then you could create an addon, extension, whatever to popular browsers that would allow this to be added into your browser (the right-click option and operations). Or just, for complete automation, save a copy, send in to get broken via a simple GET request, get back the response (the attempted decaptcha) and trim it to just what you need, then submit it to the targeted web server. That would be an acceptable captcha proxy example. I just didn't like your example you used so I wanted to expand. Then people could abuse that for automated processes if they wanted. Eh, but this does no good in recaptcha's case, unless the breaking service isn't done manually, as in sent to a chinese sweat shop for someone to solve and send back to you :p. This simply because recaptcha doesn't have a good positive percentile on correctly breaking it. That and recaptcha has a whole bunch of new versions and as soon as one becomes broke, the next one is shuttled out quickly. Uh...I forgot where I was going with this. If anyone knows, send me a message...lol. I know it's the start to some diss or something!

[Please be Mobsta]

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[Ajiryn]

Well he was talking about your typical http proxy tunnel, so this "captcha proxy" didn't make sense in response. However, your example of a "captcha proxy" started off good, however brief it was and wrong way they conned "proxy" into it. A person could submit an image to a captcha proxy protocol (most often would obviously be http) by something as simple as a right click option in your browser (so you could right-click on the image and send in). The service gets it, attempts to break the captcha. Then the values would fill in the field or copy them into your clipboard would work as well. Then you could create an addon, extension, whatever to popular browsers that would allow this to be added into your browser (the right-click option and operations). Or just, for complete automation, save a copy, send in to get broken via a simple GET request, get back the response (the attempted decaptcha) and trim it to just what you need, then submit it to the targeted web server. That would be an acceptable captcha proxy example. I just didn't like your example you used so I wanted to expand. Then people could abuse that for automated processes if they wanted. Eh, but this does no good in recaptcha's case, unless the breaking service isn't done manually, as in sent to a chinese sweat shop for someone to solve and send back to you :p. This simply because recaptcha doesn't have a good positive percentile on correctly breaking it. That and recaptcha has a whole bunch of new versions and as soon as one becomes broke, the next one is shuttled out quickly. Uh...I forgot where I was going with this. If anyone knows, send me a message...lol. I know it's the start to some diss or something!

That's also another way of going about it.

Unfortunately, capt'chas are always constantly thrown out for a new one, like you said. And there's still the issue of laziness- people reading this now STILL won't even bother to look it up.

[Pimpdaddy]

everyone has said that bots will adapt. true but i dont think they can adapt to the point of breaking captchas. even if they dont this doesnt mean it will stop bots. many will just reload the window or go back so that theyve havent been promted yet. idk much about that sort of thing...but i do know that captchas will be gotten past 1 way or another

[Spinetta]

And there's still the issue of laziness- people reading this now STILL won't even bother to look it up.

Wrong.

I won't list the link b/c I'm not sure if it would fall under the forum rules but I did google CAPTCHA Proxies, as I usually do when there is anything to do with the net that I don't know about.

You really shouldn't make broad spectrum assumptions - and as I said, never underestimate the determination of a bored Gemini.


The proxy pulls a CAPTCHA from somewhere on the Internet that a spammer wants to break. The spammer uses their own API to decide if the consumer types in the correct password or not and sends back a decision back to the target server through the proxy.


And just to clarify this post, I do not condone the use of proxies, for any illegal or unethical purposes - so don't even start. :D

[mdntepoet]

You have attacked me personally, and still do in every response. keep attempting to bully, I really could care less. You are the self serving jerk who seems to think that you and a few buddies, less than 1/100th of a percent of the active players in the game should get to say what the game makers should do with it. Good luck with that.

You coded the first spuko, gee wonder why you do not want captchas or other measures to stop bot use, might interfere with your business of spamming through the game to generate website traffic. Your true motivation just shown through loud and clear.

You are stupid if you can't grasp simple sentences. Just as the same insult applies to the many poorly constructed ones who support your argument.

There is no captcha for posting comments, hence advertising bots would still work now wouldn't they? I'm sure you know this because you run quite a few.

You're obviously biased and using the game as a source of income. Hence YOU are part of the problem!

Good luck with your "crusade" to stop captchas. Really of all the things in life to waste your time on, you should find something better to fight for.... OH WAIT I forgot this has nothing to do with what is best for the game, but rather your source of income!

So tell me, If I start a thread titled, "spinetta is a biased jerk who should be kicked out of the game for using it as a source of income instead of being a legitimate player" and I get 100 of my friends to vote you should get kicked out, would you want that choice to stand? Of course that would never happen since you would simply sign up 1,000 times and vote it however you wish since you're such a "god" of coding and automation.

If captchas were not effective, they would not still be implemented. I know they're a very effective tool to stop automation in many other areas of the web, and i've personally seen their effectiveness. They are not 100% you can crack them a small percentage of the time. Such tools are designed for things such as forum registration or email registration where failures are acceptable. A bot that attempts to crack a captcha and sign up to such services might fail 700 times to get 5 valid submissions. This is generally perfectly fine as only the legitimate account creations are saved/harvested. Would not be very effective in this circumstance. Even on a 50% ratio they're still effective. It whittles away at the bot users and gets some of them offline. It also may help by bringing into attention which accounts are suspected, and hence save the game administrators a LOT of work finding bot users to suspend.

To be fair, I think if they did a simple filter set that showed every hitlist attacker who attacked and submitted a comment to the victim's page within a few seconds of each other, they could easily knock a HUGE percentage of the bot users out of the game right away.

You MIGHT brute force a captcha, but not in any reasonable period of time that would be effective for game play. This in turn still stops the problem. Of course all it takes is to rotate the method of captcha used regularly, and now you force bot coders to do an awful lot of work for very little reward.

Under your logic, banks should stop locking their vaults... It is POSSIBLE to break into any safe, so why use one?

We should take passwords off email accounts also why we're at it, they CAN be cracked too!

Why don't we just follow your logic of "it can be cracked, so don't protect it at all" and apply it to everything in your life. In fact why don't you just make your bank account a box in your front yard that says, please honor this and don't steal it.

Anything COULD POSSIBLY be broken or worked around, this is true. But there are limitations as to the speed it can be performed, if it can be done without detection and the practicality of such measures. This is one of those cases. I'm pretty sure the real life Russian mob is not suddenly hiring every Ukrainian hacker to work around the clock to defeat the captcha on a myspace game. IF the new bots successfully find a work around, all it takes is another update and they're broken again. So quit telling the whole world the programmers should quit trying to stop automation just to save your little business!

[blahman]

Except for the bruteforce captcha deal. I mean that's a (min recaptcha length)*(character sets used a-z0-9 is typical) through (max recaptcha length)*(character set used), both multiplied times the difference in min and max. And seeing as you regenerate when one has failed, trying to bruteforce that many characters would be like .00000000000000001% rate. You could actually do math on the percentage rate, but you'd have to know the min and max of what's out there. BUT what someone needs to do is check if their captcha is based on your current session. Because then they could log out, log back in, acquire a new session and keep going. But I doubt it, probably flags the user by userid or ip and gives the account the captcha instead of basing it around the session identifier. Well it's worth checking out, seeing as the Godfather isn't exactly of the intelligent minds in knowing how http works, just look at the mission data that gets sent via a GET value with no randomization. *sigh* Yes, this basically means anyone with simple understanding of the http protocol and how a url works can easily manipulate the game to maximize their game scores and get a perfect without even playing the games. NOT condoning any of this, just throwing it out there. The godfather has equal time to read this and work on it as much as the rest of the people here. It's called Full Disclosure (just in case someone deletes my post.... <.<).

[StevoReno]

I was sanctioned due to the captcha. I had hit the health button machinegun style trying to heal fast and the captcha popped up before I knew what happened. It refreshed too many times and I am now blocked! I realize it is to prevent cheating but...it was an honest mistake. I dont want to be labeled a cheater. I am an active member of the forums and a bounty hunter that puts in hours of legit game play to earn my money.

Now i get blocked for ...what??? I dont know this makes me just want to say screw it and play mob wars on facebook...it is 15 min log-in on the hit list and I dont have to worry about being blocked or labeled.

[fionacat]

These captchas don't work, anyway. One doesn't have to type what's in the box. One can type almost anything and it will work. Give it a try.

[meandmrt]

Wow talk about an EPIC FAIL! Captchas??? Really? Because you're too ****ing lazy to actually go about enforcing the banning of bots so instead you take it upon yourself to put captchas in the game? Thank you for ruining this game. There are going to be TONS of people that quit this game if this feature stays. I've been playing this game non stop for months and I'm out if this continues. I've been one of the few who actually spends money on this game too so it's the GF's ****ing loss not mine.

[MobWaR]

yeah good job i have already seen bots advertised on mobsters that bypass captcha somehow... this is just stupid ruining the game for everybody but the bots at this point

[ch41n g4ng]

Help the Fight Against CAPTCHAs

Spread this URL:
http://tinyurl.com/nocaptcha

Broadcast, YIM, Do Whatever It Takes.

Make A Stand & Let The Godfather Know WE DO NOT WANT CAPTCHA!!

[Giovanni]

The tenor of this thread has taken a disturbing turn. It is now closed.