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Ice Pick Ogie

09-16-2009, 11:37 AM

MOBSTERS 2: TERRITORY GUIDE

TERRITORY GUIDE: Full Guide (gdoc) (http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYAQrnvCgoNxZGdiZnhucDlfMWZjZ2JjemN2&hl=en)
The link below is for the Google Document which completely details the territory information. To see all of the territory stats please visit the gdoc.

Territory Guide: Strategy
Territory Guide: Detailed Table View
Territory Guide: Detailed Tree View
Territory Guide: Achievements
Territory Guide: Territory Impacting Classes, Avatar Items, and Equipment
Territory Guide: Mission Territory Requirements
Territory Guide: Character Class Territory Requirements

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYAQrnvCgoNxZGdiZnhucDlfMWZjZ2JjemN2&hl=en

TERRITORY GUIDE: Mini Tree View
Gas Station (1)
Residential
Slum(1) -> Sub-Division(12) -> Gated Mansion(48)
Slum(1) -> Row of Brownstones(10) -> Block of Townhouses(25) -> Luxury Condo(61)
Slum(1) -> Row of Brownstones(10) -> Apartment Complex(38) -> High-Rise Residence(63)
Food & Beverage
Dive Bar(1) -> Pizza Parlor(7) -> Ristorante(50)
Dive Bar(1) -> Diner(17) -> Italian Bakery(37)
Dive Bar(1) -> Strip Club(24) -> Escort Agency(43) -> Brothel (?)
Dive Bar(1) -> Strip Club(24) -> Fancy Nightclub(58)
Commercial
Storefront(2) -> Pawn Shop(13) -> Drug Lab(31)
Storefront(2) -> Pawn Shop(13) -> Fence Operations(44)
Storefront(2) -> Pawn Shop(13) -> Weapon Shop(87)
Storefront(2) -> Importer(26) -> Olive Oil Importer(36)
Storefront(2) -> Importer(26) -> Tomato Sauce Importer(40)
Storefront(2) -> Importer(26) -> Wine Importer(46)
Storefront(2) -> Funeral Parlor(23) -> Crematorium(70)
Industrial
Old Warehouse(3) -> Factory(15) -> Cement Factory(42) -> Construction Co(92)
Old Warehouse(3) -> Factory(15) -> Incinerator(52) -> Waste Management Co(83)
Old Warehouse(3) -> Chop Shop(21)
Old Warehouse(3) -> Slaughterhouse(33) -> Meat-Packing Plant(66)
Entertainment
Sportsbook(5) -> Gambling Parlor(18) -> Casino(55) -> Resort Casino(99)
Sportsbook(5) -> Boxing Hall(28) -> Sports Arena(96)
Sportsbook(5) -> Stable(34) -> Racetrack(75)

BEGINNERS INFORMATION: Understanding Territory Slots
The current maximum available slots to build territories is 12

The information below shows when the slots become available.
Slot 1: Base Slot
Slot 2: Base Slot
Slot 3: Base Slot
Slot 4: Base Slot
Slot 5: Opens Level 3
Slot 6: Opens Level 6
Slot 7: Opens Level 8
Slot 8: Opens Level 12
Slot 9: Opens Level 15
Slot 10: Opens Level 19
Slot 11: Opens Level 23
Slot 12: Opens Level 27

Note: There is also a new 3-D style territory layout in limited beta release to some members. At this point it is undetermined if this affects the slot layout open levels or exactly how this will change territory building. Provide any information you find.

BEGINNERS INFORMATION: Understanding the Territory Information Details
Basic Territory Categories
Open Level: This shows the level the territory first becomes available.
Price: This shows the base price for each territory. Note that the price doubles for every territory of the same type you purchase.

A good strategy is to purchase the highest level territory before purchasing the next of the same territory.
As an example: If you want 3 Ristorantes, purchase the Dive Bar, Pizza Parlor, and Ristorante before purchasing the 2nd and 3rd Risorante so you only pay double price on the Ristorantes

Commercial Tree: The Storefront properties do not give enhancements, but they produce the highest income.
Income per/min: This shows the territory income and time interval the territory pays out.
Note: The income listed on the territory page will not change even if your Character Class has an increase in the income from territories.

Income per/hr: This converts the per/min income to an hourly rate to help show which territories payout the best.

Math on Income per Hour
The price listed in your territories may not match the number in the table.
This can be affected by 2 factors Avatar Items/Unique Loot that increases the payout speed for territories.

For example:
Crooked Accountant = 5% increase in territory cash payout speed.
Fence Operations = $3600 per 180min.

180min * .95 = 171min (Payout speed increase from Accountant)

So the Fence Operations is now $3600 per 171min
$3600 / 171min = 21.05/min * 60 = $1263/hr

Max Income: This shows the maximum income the territory can hold before it stops collecting money.
Max Ownable: This shows the maximum number of each territory you can own before receiving a 'Limit Reached' message.

Enhancement Categories:
The following categories are territory enhancements that are only applicable while you own the territory.
The enhancements are stackable, so if you own multiple territories, the bonus will stack for each category.

Note: The timer reduction is rounded upward by the game. So if your stacked energy timer nets a reduction of 4.8, you will see a drop of 5 seconds on your timer.

Residential Tree: The Slum properties give an enhancement to energy and energy regeneration.
Energy Max: This shows the amount the territory will increase the energy stat.
Energy Regen: This shows the amount the territory will reduce the energy regeneration timer.

Math on Energy Regneration Timer:
The base energy timer starts at 60 seconds per 2 energy points.
Therefore 1% bonus to energy regeneration will reduce the timer by 0.6 seconds. (60 x 1% = 0.6)
The timer reduction stacks, so if you have a total of 10% it will reduce by 6 seconds (0.6 x 10 = 6)

Food & Bevarage Tree: The Dive Bar properties give an enhancement to health and health regeneration.
Health Max: This shows the amount the territory will increase the health stat.
Health Regen: This shows the amount the territory will reduce the health regeneration timer.

Math on Health Regneration Timer:
The base health timer starts at 180 seconds per health point.
Therefore 1% bonus to health regeneration will reduce the timer by 1.8 seconds. (180 x 1% = 1.8)
The timer reduction stacks, so if you have a total of 10% it will reduce by 18 seconds (1.8 x 10 = 18)

Entertainment Tree: The Sportsbook properties give an enhancement to stamina and stamina regeneration.
Stamina Max: This shows the amount the territory will increase the stamina stat.
Stamina Regen: This shows the amount the territory will reduce the stamina regeneration timer.

Math on Stamina Regneration Timer:
The base stamina timer starts at 120 seconds per stamina point.
Therefore 1% bonus to stamina regeneration will reduce the timer by 1.2 seconds. (120 x 1% = 1.2)
The timer reduction stacks, so if you have a total of 10% it will reduce by 12 seconds (1.2 x 10 = 12)

Industrial Tree: The Warehouse properties give an enhancement to either defense, attack or chance of dealing critical hits.
Attack: This shows the amount the territory will increase the attack stat.
Defense: This shows the amount the territory will increase the defense stat.
Crit Hits (Fight): This shows the increased chance of scoring a critical hit in fights

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Thanks to:

Territory Guide:
The original poster in the first guide who really got the ball rolling - Migu

General Territory Information - all the poster in the orignal thread,ld_ruiz69,street thief,LexLuthor801,SunkenDPro
Territory Slot Details - BigAussieAL
Good idea to put the territories in order - BigAussieAL
Pricing Details- Ice Pick Ogie,Bozana,BigAussieAL,Xunobulax, Don of Montepulciano,Woodsie Lord,Bdawgfl,GMan6,Arnieboy
Maximum Territories Ownable - Ice Pick Ogie, J. Daniels,A. Katalichenko, Wilson Fisk,drlenr,insomniac,SethA,LexLuthor801
Mission Territory Requirements - Ice Pick Ogie, ArnieBoy, Jimmyrop

Achievements:
Putting the Achievements thread together - Shampound

Class Requirements:
Putting the Class requirements thread together - Steeler14

Avatar Items (Unique Loot):
Putting the Unique Loot thread together - Shampound

If I have failed to add a thanks for something you have done in the past,
accept my apologies and let me know so I can add you!!

Ice Pick Ogie

09-16-2009, 11:37 AM

TERRITORY GUIDE: Achievements
Note on Terminolgy:
B=Bronze, S=Silver, G=Gold, P=Platinum
The number in (parantheses) indicates the level the Territory Achievement can be completed.

When you complete a particular achievement you typically get 1 FP. There have been instances shown that people are also getting Stat points instead.
It appears the developer is still working through their preferred reward for achievements.

RESIDENTIAL
B (1): Residential Slumlord - owning 1 Slums
S (10): Residential Landlord - owning 2 Brownstones
G (25): Residential Big Shot - owning 3 Blocks of Townhouses
P (63): Residential Tycoon - owning 2 Luxury Condo Communities and 2 High-Rise Residents

COMMERCIAL
B (2): Commercial Slumlord - owning 1 Storefront
S (23): Commercial Landlord - owning 2 Funeral Parlors
G (70): Commercial Big Shot - Owning 2 Crematoriums
P (44): Commercial Tycoon - owning 3 Fence Operations and 3 Olive Oil importers

INDUSTRIAL
B (3): Industrial Slumlord - owning 1 Old Warehouse
S (15): Industrial Landlord - owning 2 Factories
G (42): Industrial Big Shot – owning 3 Cement Factories
P (92): Industrial Tycoon - owning 2 Construction companies and 2 Waste Management companies

ENTERTAINMENT
B (5): Entertainment Slumlord - owning 1 Sportsbook
S (34): Entertainment Landlord - owning 2 Stables
G (55): Entertainment Big Shot - owning 3 Casinos
P (99): Entertainment Tycoon - owning a Resort Casino, a Racetrack, and a Sports Arena

FOOD & BEVERAGE
B (1): Food & Beverage Slumlord - owning 1 Dive Bar
S (7): Food & Beverage Landlord - owning 2 Pizza Parlors
G (50): Food & Beverage Big Shot - owning 3 Ristorantes
P (58): Food & Beverage Tycoon - owning 2 Italian Bakeries, 2 Escort Agencies, and 2 Fancy Nightclubs

IN ORDER OF COMPLETION
B (1): Residential Slumlord - owning 1 Slums
B (1): Food & Beverage Slumlord - owning 1 Dive Bar
B (2): Commercial Slumlord - owning 1 Storefront
B (3): Industrial Slumlord - owning 1 Old Warehouse
B (5): Entertainment Slumlord - owning 1 Sportsbook
S (7): Food & Beverage Landlord - owning 2 Pizza Parlors
S (10): Residential Landlord - owning 2 Brownstones
S (15): Industrial Landlord - owning 2 Factories
S (23): Commercial Landlord - owning 2 Funeral Parlors
G (25): Residential Big Shot - owning 3 Blocks of Townhouses
S (34): Entertainment Landlord - owning 2 Stables
G (42): Industrial Big Shot – owning 3 Cement Factories
P (44): Commercial Tycoon - owning 3 Fence Operations and 3 Olive Oil importers
G (50): Food & Beverage Big Shot - owning 3 Ristorantes
G (55): Entertainment Big Shot - owning 3 Casinos
P (58): Food & Beverage Tycoon - owning 2 Italian Bakeries, 2 Escort Agencies, and 2 Fancy Nightclubs
P (63): Residential Tycoon - owning 2 Luxury Condo Communities and 2 High-Rise Residents
G (70): Commercial Big Shot - Owning 2 Crematoriums
P (92): Industrial Tycoon - owning 2 Construction companies and 2 Waste Management companies
P (99): Entertainment Tycoon - owning a Resort Casino, a Racetrack, and a Sports Arena

Note:
The Platinum for Commercial is an exception as the territories for platinum are available before the territory for gold.

I have tested and you DO NOT get the FP for Gold if you do the Platinum achievement first.
If you decide to get the Platinum achievement before the Gold, I have confirmed that you can still get the FP for Gold achievement once the Crematorium is available, and the medal on your Mobsters page will remain platinum.

STRATEGY: Using Territories for the Stat Achievements
There are 3 stat achievements (energy, health, and stamina) which you can use territories to help gain the achievements.

Stamina: How to get the stamina achievement at level 75
B 10
S 20
G 30
P 50

Strategy:
Minimum level required: 75
Territories to purchase:
(1) - Racetrack (+6 stamina each, +6 total stamina, $82,200 total cost)
(3) - Stable (+4 stamina each, +12 total stamina, $160,500 total cost)
(3) - Casino (+3 stamina each, +9 total stamina, $407,500 total cost)
(4) - Gambling Parlor (+1stamina each, +4 total stamina,$220,500 )

Total stamina increase: 31
Total territory Cost: $870,700
Minimum stat points required: 19

19 base stamina stat points plus the 31 stamina increase from the above territories will give you the platinum achievement.

Also highly recommend opening the Hitman class which gives a bonus of +10 to stamina. You can use this to either decrease the base stat points needed to place on stamina, or reduce the number of territories you need to purchase.

Energy: How to get the energy achievement at level 63
B 200
S 500
G 1000
P 2000

Strategy:
Minimum level required: 63
Territories to purchase:
(3) - Gated Mansion (+50 energy each, +150 total, $118,600 total cost)
(2) - High-Rise Residence (+40 energy each, +80 total, $159,200 total cost)
(4) - Sub-Division (+25 energy each, +100 total, $116,000 total cost)
(3) - Apartment Complex (+20 energy each, +60 total, $146,000 total cost)

Total Energy Increase: 390 points
Total Territory Cost: $539,800
Minimum energy required: 1610

Note that a single stat point will give you +10 to energy. I believe you start with 100 energy points, so 1510/10 = 151 base stat points plus the above territories will give you the platinum achievement.

Also note that if you get the Secret Sauce Recipe this will give you a permanent +30 to energy which will reduce the base stats required. Please see the mini-games thread for details on obtaining the recipe.

Health: How to get the health achievement at level 58
B 200
S 500
G 1000
P 2000

Strategy:
Minimum level required: 58
Territories to purchase:
(3) - Ristorante (+100 health each, +300 total, $181,350 total cost)
(3) - Escort Agency (+60 health each, +180 total, $350,100 total cost)
(4) - Pizza Parlor (+50 health each, +200 total, $180,000 total cost)
(2) - Fancy Nightclub (+40 health each, +80 total, $237,000 total cost)

Total Health Increase: 760 points
Total Territory Cost: $948,450
Minimum Health Required: 1240

Note that a single stat point will give you +10 to health, so if you put 124 base stat points into health plus the above territories will give you the platinum achievement. Not sure what the starting value of health was.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-16-2009, 11:38 AM

TERRITORY GUIDE: Territory Impacting Classes, Avatar Items and Equipment
The following details the various character classes, items and equipment that can impact how your territories work.

Character Classes:
The following character classes give discounts on territory purchases.
Money Man (5%)
Landlord (15%)
- Class Mission:Take Over a Rival Casino (opens L57) - Obtain Real Estate Negotiator

Avatar Items:
The following avatar items will benefit your interaction with territories.
'$' Tattoo - 5% increase in territory cash payout speed.
Russian Hat - 5% discount on territories. (Earned by Mastering Moscow)

Equipment:
The following special equipment will impact territories.
Henchman: Real Estate Negotiator - 5% discount on all territories
Henchman: Crooked Accountant - 5% increase in territory cash payout speed.

Note on determining the base territory price if you have discounts (for those that want to help fill in the blanks)
Add up the total discounts you have active (i.e. Landlord = 15% and Negotiator = 5% for a total of 20% discount)
The formula is (Listed Price / (1 - Discount percent)

For example:
Listed Price = 8,000
Total Discounts = 20% = 0.2
(8,000 / (1 - 0.2) = 8,000 / 0.8 = 10,000 base price.

TERRITORY GUIDE: Mission Territory Requirements
The following details the missions that require particular territories for completion.
The number indicated in parentheses is the number required to complete Platinum Mastery of the mission.

Bronx
None
Downtown
Establish a Business as a Front (opens L16): 3x Storefront
Miami
Hire a Miami Nightclub Promoter (opens L25): 1x Strip Club
Hire and Train Drug Mules (opens L37): 1x Drug Lab
Jersey
Dispose of a Car for Insurance Money (opens L38): 2x Chop Shop
Vegas
Open a Brothel (opens L65): 1x Escort Agency
Chinatown
Start Illegal Pai Gow Hall (opens L55): 1x Gambling Parlor
Coney Island
None
Grand Cayman
Launder Money Through a Nightclub (opens L105) 1x Fancy Nightclub
Moscow
Get a Politician Drunk (opens L?)
1x Dive Bar (Bronze Level)
1x Strip Club (Silver Level)
2x Escort Agency (Gold Level)
1x Dive Bar, 1x Strip Club, 1x Escort Agency, (Platinum Level)
Create Your Own Vodka Brand (opens L?) 1x Old Warehouse
Amsterdam
Drugs for Guns (opens L?) 1x Fence Operations
Open an Illegal Gambling Den (opens L?)
1x Sportsbook (Bronze Level)
1x Gambling Parlor (Silver/Gold Level)
1x Casino (Platinum Level)
Setup A Peephouse as a Laundering Front (opens L?)
1x Strip Club (Bronze/Silver Level)
1x Strip Club 1xFence Operation (Gold Level)
2x Strip Club 2xFence Operation (Platinum Level)
TERRITORY GUIDE: Character Class Territory Requirements
The following are the territories required to open certain character classes.

Money Man: Owning (4) territories - any
Landlord: Owning (12) territories - any
Trafficker: Owning (4) Old Warehouses: available at level 3
High Roller: Owning (1) Casino: available at level 55
Bagman: Owning (1) High-Rise Residences: available at level 63

TERRITORY GUIDE: Strategy
Best Territory by Category:
At this point the details are not available on all the properties to determine which are the best overall. The ones listed are based on the known information.

Best Income: Fence Operations, Resort Casino, Tomato Sauce Importer
(Note: Brothel is actually the highest income $2667/hr, but it maxes out at $12,000 or roughly 4.5 hours of collection. So this territory isn't the best unless you are actively collecting every 4-5 hours.)
Best Energy: Gated Mansion, High-Rise Residence, Sub-Division
Best Energy Regeneration: Luxury Condo, High-Rise Residence, Block of Townhouses
Best Health: Ristorante, Escort Agency, Pizza Parlor
Best Health Regeneration: Italian Bakery, Fancy Nightclub, Escort Agency
Best Stamina: Racetrack, Resort Casino, Stable
Best Stamina Regeneration: Sports Arena, Resort Casino, Boxing Hall
Best Attack: Meat-Packing Plant, Waste Management Company, Incinerator
Best Defense: Chop Shop
Best Critical Hit: Construction Company, Waste Management Company, Cement Factory

Territory Builds:
The best strategy is user specific, and will be a combination of the enhancements you want for your Mobster combined with the highest available income properties.

I wanted to setup something we can use to display territory builds that help enhance our characters. I'm sure everyone has good ideas for low and high level characters, so post up your ideas.

Build Type: Attacker
Level Req: 55
Territories:
(3) Fancy Nightblub: +40 health, +3% health regen
(3) Casino: +3 stamina, +3% stamina regen
(3) Incinerator: +3% critical hits, +2% attack
(3) Fence Operations: $1,250 per hour

Total Bonuses
Income: $7,188hr
Health: +120 health, +9% health regen
Energy: none
Stamina: +9 stamina, +9% stamina regen
Fight: +9% critical hits, +6% attack
Explanation: The attack build uses a mix to increase health and stamina statistics, while increasing the attack rating and chance for critical hits. It then uses 3 fence ops to jump the hourly income.

Build Type: Best Income Build (Level 46)
Level Req: 99
Territories:
(3) Fence Operations: $1,250 per hour
(3) Tomato Sauce Importer: $975 per hour
(1) Resort Casino: $960 per hour
(3) Olive Oil Importer: $866 per hour
(2) Wine Importer: $771 per hour

Total Bonuses
Income: $11,775hr
Health: none
Energy: none
Stamina: none
Fight: none
Explanation: The best income build uses the maximum number available for all of the best income territories. This build does not give bonuses to any stat categories.

Note their is a character build guide (http://forum.mobstersapp.com/showthread.php?t=150912) (by Shampound) that could be used in conjuction with the Territory Build to help develop your character.

Shampound

09-16-2009, 11:42 AM

Sweet guide! +1

-- if you weren't done with the posts, and you need me to delete this post, just say so. =D

edit: i demand this thread be stickied.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-16-2009, 12:00 PM

No I'm done. Thanks for asking though. I prepped them all before posting so they would all be together.

Question though, do you think the small font is hard to read. I was considering using it throughout to tighten it up.

Shampound

09-16-2009, 01:03 PM

I think it's fine. =x No worries.

Shampound

09-17-2009, 11:18 AM

I wonder if people are still using the outdated guide, lol.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-17-2009, 09:48 PM

Seems like it. Lots of views but not much discussion

Shampound

09-17-2009, 09:54 PM

maybe because all their questions are answered with one look at your guide. :3 go-go gadget!

xBANEx

09-18-2009, 12:07 AM

vengeful slayers

09-18-2009, 04:55 AM

Ah, best territory guide up thus far. Rather curious as to why theres not much discussion going on here though :/

Really helps me with planning my territory for my defender though >_< Still need the other 6 planned though. +1

allow me to explain...when you create a guide, that is factual and as detailed as this guide is, there is no need to ask questions...there is no need to have "discussion" as you put it...the only thing that is necessary is to make sure to give +rep where it is due, and since that is done, my work here is finished...great guides don't need discussion, that's what makes them great guides

Ice Pick Ogie

09-18-2009, 08:15 AM

Too true, although still good to have discussion on Territory Build to help build your character.

KhalilG

09-18-2009, 10:27 AM

So the gas station never become anything??? Thats kinda lame.....

xBANEx

09-18-2009, 12:14 PM

Too true, although still good to have discussion on Territory Build to help build your character.

This is what I was referring to. ;)

Sampi

09-18-2009, 01:31 PM

Thanks for all the effort you used to gather the above information and displayed it for all of us "MB2 probies" Sampi

Shampound

09-18-2009, 01:52 PM

Bozana

09-18-2009, 02:20 PM

1. I know many people like to know the pricing. If someone wants to volunteer, I'd like to use a new method to show this.
Basically want to put the available locations (i.e. B, D, J, M, etc) and put them in order cheapest first on the gdoc full tree view. Since the price changes based on how many you own, listing the price isn't always accurate. This way everyone will know which location to go to purchase the territory.[/SIZE]

I have made one, as you know and you can butcher it at will, if you like ;-)

Here it is directly from me:

http://62.255.193.163/

I'm still working on it.

BigAussieAL

09-19-2009, 12:39 AM

That's a tremendous and accurate guide, well done!

Only one point looked suspect to me: I've built 4 Old Warehouses to unlock the Trafficker class.
At least Old Warehouses are not limited to only 3 slot triplets, you can get quads of them.
Getting the purchase price back on quads or higher takes a long, but finite, time.

I do think more information regarding prices should be collected, though.

Here is the complete information on prices up to Level 40.
I do not expect anyone to actually use this list, except to check the results.
All that is needed, once this information is known (and it already is);
all that is needed now is a record of the best price and its location (which I provided in another thread).

Prices are absolutely fixed and stable (as recorded in the list below).
There are only three known and precisely predictable variations to territory prices (as accurately described in the guide above):
* with City--shown below;
* with Copycat territories--2nd of twin territories costs twice the first, and third of triplets costs twice more again--that is, the third costs 4 times as much (as the base price in the given city); and,
* with Class--Moneyman gives 5%, and Landlord 15% discount.
The last two of these are very easily stated, what players can't work out without help from a guide is the tedious work of checking each city for each territory.

For overall strategy, though, actual costs and benefits cannot be calculated without this information. To decide which of two alternatives is better, one needs sufficient details of their different costs.

The only thing that is difficult is "reverse engineering" the in-game prices while constructing the territory guide. I used simple spreadsheet formulas which divided the in-game price by 2 when I was buying a 2nd territory, 4 when buying a 3rd, and divided that price by 85% when using a Landlord and 95% when using a Moneyman.

Prices in the data below are listed in the order the cities are unlocked:
Bronx, Downtown, Miami, Jersey, Vegas. Where a territory is "not available at this location", I have noted it as "na".

In my other thread, or somewhere, I plan to explain some simple maths that helps with making best use of territory slots. I imagine players will feel more comfortable if they know what they are aiming for, and why they're not missing out on anything by going for it.

Anyway, here's the data up to Level 40. Though the simple "best price" list is, I think, all most players would really want to know.

Gas Station 900 na 1,000 950 875
Slum 2,000 2,500 2,400 2,350 na
Dive Bar 4,250 na 4,500 4,600 4,125
Storefront 8,000 10,000 8,250 9,000 na
Old Warehouse 5,000 na 5,500 5,250 5,400
Sportsbook 3,875 na 4,250 4,500 3,750
Pizza Parlor 10,350 11,625 na 11,000 na
Row of Brownstones 6,300 7,500 6,900 6,750 na
Sub-Division na na 7,550 7,400 7,200
Pawn Shop 36,000 na 37,500 na 41,250
Factory 14,250 na 15,000 na na
Diner 19,500 na na 21,000 19,000
Gambling Parlor 11,625 na 12,750 13,500 11,250
Chop Shop 24,000 na 26,500 27,000 26,250
Funeral Parlour na na 29,250 31,500 na
Strip Club 22,500 na 24,000 25,125 22,000
Block of Town Houses na 13,500 12,250 11,925 na
Importer na 41,250 na 36,000 na
Boxing Hall na 25,500 na na 24,500
Drug Lab 86,500 na 88,250 na 93,500
Slaughterhouse na 22,500 na na 20,250
Stable na na 20,250 na 21,000
Olive Oil Importer na 135,000 na 121,500 na
Italian Bakery 34,250 na na 37,500 na
Apartment Complex na 19,800 17,250 na na
Tomato Sauce Importer na 108,000 na 99,000 na

Congrats again on a very excellent guide.

Macaque

09-19-2009, 09:15 AM

Great guide!!! Is there any way to include mission requirements? Such as having 3 storefronts in downtown. I had already used/upgraded all my slots and had to sell to meet the mission requirements. Would be nice to include this.

Little Steven

09-19-2009, 11:49 AM

I do have a question that I have asked a lot and not quite sure if it was resolved. First, great guide, and thx for doing that.

If you doing mostly an energy build, you obviously want ONE gated mansion and luxury condo for the 4% experience regen, but do the condos / high rises STACK? Has anyone tested this.

Example one - does one high rise and one condo stack and give you faster energy regen?
Example two - does two condos and two high rises stack - give you faster energy regen?
Example three - do you only need one gated mansion for max energy, and one condo to be completed max energy char?

Shampound

09-19-2009, 11:50 AM

They all stack.

Little Steven

09-19-2009, 12:13 PM

I just tried this out, and cannot get faster regen than like 52 seconds. This is with 2 condos and two high rises. If you just use one high rise and 1 condo, i get the exact same thing.

So when you say they all stack, do you mean ONE (1) item of each, or are you telling me that two condos would give you 8% energy regen? :)

Shampound

09-19-2009, 12:31 PM

Do you have the Slurpee machine, also?

With two High-Rises and two Condo's with the Slurpee machine, the timer should show around 50 second regen periods. Without a Slurpee Machine, 52.8 seconds.

With a single High-Rise and Condo, with the Slurpee machine, it should be around 53 seconds.

Little Steven

09-19-2009, 12:33 PM

yes i have the slurpee machine...
hrmm, ok i will try that again, it seems to hover between 54 secs and 51 secs sometimes... Its not always the same, but I will try it again..

Bozana

09-19-2009, 12:39 PM

I thought this might help.. Upgrade From Sportsbook In Chinatown Prices:

http://62.255.193.163/Upgrade%20from%20Sportsbook%20in%20Chinatown.jpg

BigAussieAL

09-20-2009, 05:54 AM

crashnsmash

09-20-2009, 11:32 AM

I have three Row of Brownstones and a slurpee machine.

Do all three stack to make 8%?

I'm going 3 of each of these I believe..
"Best Income: Fence Operations
Best Energy: Gated Mansion
Best Energy Regeneration: Luxury Condo"

What about the other 3?

arnieboy

09-20-2009, 12:57 PM

one error needs to be fixed in the google doc. apartment complex also gives +20 energy ( apart from the energy regeneration speed)

Ice Pick Ogie

09-21-2009, 09:29 AM

ok, I've been away over the weekend so I'll work through everyones comments today and make the updates.

one note, I did the experiment on the Commercial Tycoon achievement. This is the one where the platinum territories (Olive Oil Importer and Fence Operations) are available before the gold territory (Crematorium).

So I went straight to platinum and DID NOT receive the 2nd GF point for the gold accomplishment. So I'm not sure if this is gone forever, or if I can go back and buy 3 crematoriums and get the GF point.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-21-2009, 09:33 AM

one error needs to be fixed in the google doc. apartment complex also gives +20 energy ( apart from the energy regeneration speed)

Updated. Thanks Arnieboy.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-21-2009, 09:56 AM

http://i36.tinypic.com/70cnzb.jpg

As far as I know, there's no Enhancements. =P Not too sure where's it upgradeable from, or it's max $. I'll let it sit and fine out, (I collected the cash before screenshotting so you can see how long it takes to payout.)

Thanks Shampound. I updated the gdoc. still pending max, and locations. Doubting there is any enhancement since its in the storefront tier.

FYI: The pre-purchase screenshot is the most useful...but maybe you already owned it. Thanks.

youngskywalker

09-21-2009, 11:16 AM

question: Can I go from bronze mastery directly to platinum mastery? I don't really want to buy irrelevant properties if I don't have to.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-21-2009, 11:27 AM

from my last test, yes, but you don't get the reward GF points.

BMS Mob

09-21-2009, 07:37 PM

This guide rocks

BigAussieAL

09-21-2009, 11:18 PM

I did the experiment on the Commercial Tycoon achievement. This is the one where the platinum territories (Olive Oil Importer and Fence Operations) are available before the gold territory (Crematorium).

I went straight to platinum and DID NOT receive the 2nd GF point for the gold accomplishment. So I'm not sure if this is gone forever, or if I can go back and buy 3 crematoriums and get the GF point.

Thanks for this, Ogie. I hope you'll be able to get the Favor Points (FP) with the 3 Crematoria. Perhaps, depending on how things are programmed, it will give you the FP, and perhaps display a gold rather than platinum achievement medal after you do that.

Shampound

09-22-2009, 01:00 AM

From what I heard, FP's from Achievements are no longer being given. So I think it'd be in everyone's best interest to just skip to Platinum anyways. =O

Anyone want to provide proof to this new myth? There's several topics in the Technical Support forum regarding the issue.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-22-2009, 08:17 AM

I received a FP yesterday for the platinum achieve.

My understanding is that FP are not being given as part of mission rewards anymore. You only get stat points.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-22-2009, 08:23 AM

so, someone sent me a message with another maximum ownable for the Wine Importer = 2.

I decided to add another value to the max field on the gdoc in parantheses. This number indicates the maximum you are allowed to own for a particular territory. When you reach the maximum you get a message saying limit reached.

Anybody finds maxes, let me know. I'm curious to see if this is level dependant or not also.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-22-2009, 08:27 AM

Thanks for this, Ogie. I hope you'll be able to get the Favor Points (FP) with the 3 Crematoria. Perhaps, depending on how things are programmed, it will give you the FP, and perhaps display a gold rather than platinum achievement medal after you do that.

Dude that would suck so bad if it went back to gold and got stuck there.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-22-2009, 10:16 AM

Bozana

09-22-2009, 10:52 AM

Hey thanks Bozana :)

You have a Real Estate "Negotiator" don't you.

What discount does that give you?

What class were you using when you viewed the upgrades?

That way, we can work out the base price for the territory in China Town.

Cheers.

Yes I do have the Real Estate Negotiator now.. but NOT when I did that print screen. I was in a class that didn't give me any properties discount at all..

Here is a picture of the Real Estate Negotiator:

http://62.255.193.163/Real%20Estate%20Negotiator.jpg

Bozana

09-22-2009, 11:10 AM

Ice Pick Ogie

09-22-2009, 12:21 PM

Bozana

09-22-2009, 12:52 PM

And finally, to the most time consuming response...to Bozana and BigAussieAL.

On pricing:
1. I've compiled all your information together and posted a table format on the gdoc version. There are a lot of blanks, so as you get information let me know and I'll make the updates.

2. I've modified the detailed tree view so that the Upgrade Available: locations are listed in order from cheapest to most expensive.

I've added the known criteria that can impact the territory pricing, so hopefully this will suffice for your requests to get pricing detailed. Thanks for all the work to collect this info.

I'll be gone until next week, so if I don't respond I'm not ignoring you :-D

Thanks darling! I'll try to help as much as possible.. I spent $2 000 000 in mobsters 2 to get some of these information and pictures. I hope these info helps and I've taken some screen shots of properties in Chinatown from 1st buys. My hubby, Richard, he is ahead of me in the game and I'll most likely get screen shots from him when he upgrades. Like you Oggie, I'm level 61 at the moment.

Enjoy ur time off! xoxo

Bozana

09-22-2009, 01:00 PM

Ogie, Escort Agency is available in Downtown and Los Vegas and Miami.. Thought to let you know.. Pics of it is on my downloads mobsters pic folder

Bozana

09-22-2009, 01:34 PM

More China Town pics available.. Keep checking my website..

http://62.255.193.163/

Ice Pick Ogie

09-22-2009, 02:24 PM

Bozana, I know the pic gathering is a lot of work, but I just don't have time to go digging through all of that. Much more helpful to have simple statements on what you think needs to be updated.

1. Instead of all the pics of 1st, 2nd, 3rd purchases.....are you seeing a standard ratio on upgrades. For example does the price double every time you buy a new one?

2. Definitely appreciate the info on Chinatown, but I really just need a list of which ones are available in Chinatown, and if possible, the price.

Ice Pick Ogie

09-22-2009, 02:25 PM

Ogie, Escort Agency is available in Downtown and Los Vegas and Miami.. Thought to let you know.. Pics of it is on my downloads mobsters pic folder

updated on gdoc. still red pending pricing order.

Shampound

09-22-2009, 02:31 PM

is it just me, or is anyone else in love with bozana? =O

crashnsmash

09-22-2009, 06:51 PM

Bozana

09-22-2009, 06:53 PM

is it just me, or is anyone else in love with bozana? =O

Did I do something wrong? If so, let me know. I'm just trying to help out and not stamp on anyone's toes..:confused: :o If I'm bothering anyone, I shall cease. :(

I have comprised a one huge picture (although uncomplete) for properties buying 2nd time round. This picture is attached, if you wish to view it.. warning it's little bit large in file size.. over 990kb in size. This is also available on my server:

http://62.255.193.163/Mob%202%20Pics/Buying%20Properties%202nd%20Time%20Around%20Table. jpg
Buying Properties 2nd Time Around Table.jpg

Bozana

09-22-2009, 07:40 PM

Are Row of Brownstones / Block of Town Houses supposed to stack?

When I had one Row of Brownstones and now with 2 Row of Brownstones and one Block of Town Houses its still at 54-56 seconds regen with slurpee machone

Yes. I know have 51 second regain time with 2 luxury condo's, 1 brownstone, 2 apartment complexes, however, I've seen it with 43 seconds regain and 25 seconds regain.. I think Mobsters 2 is playing up.. I'm level 61. I have a picture of the Territories that I own which is attached.

BigAussieAL

09-22-2009, 08:22 PM

Territories have so much information. This is awesome work everyone is doing gathering and organizing it. Great team-work everyone, especially Ogie and Bozana.

Bozana

09-22-2009, 09:26 PM

Territories have so much information. This is awesome work everyone is doing gathering and organizing it. Great team-work everyone, especially Ogie and Bozana.

Thank you very much Aussie! I spent at lot of mobster's money getting some of those properties. Hubby just got the meat packing plant upgrade, so I'll be taking screen shots of those and see if there is any in China town.

I'm a Cairns girl (20 yrs) from Far North Queensland and born in Mount Isa (9 yrs)! I lived in Brisbane for 7 yrs. I'm now living in the UK (over a year) Parents are still living in Cairns and I miss it a lot. UK is bloody weird! :-S Where abouts are u?

xBANEx

09-22-2009, 11:33 PM

So, out of curiosity, does anyone have a territory set-up geared towards defensive players? Or.. any sort of suggestions a defender should be buying? So far I'm looking into 3x chop shops for the +6% defense and 3x fence operations for the money.

Shampound

09-22-2009, 11:54 PM

[COLOR="Blue"][B][SIZE="3"]Did I do something wrong?

lol, no, not at all. =D just asking if anyone else was in love with you, (since you contributed a lot.) :cool:

Bozana

09-23-2009, 12:14 AM

Meat-Packing Plant

I grabed this from my husband's laptop, as he is far ahead of me in the game.

China town:
Price: $49,248

Downtown:
Price: $44,460

Las Vegas:
Price: $41,040

Income: $1,525 per 240 mins.
$401 per hour
Max: $10,675

Enhancements: * 4% attack strength

http://62.255.193.163/Meat-Packing-Plant.jpg

:D

Bozana

09-23-2009, 12:22 AM

lol, no, not at all. =D just asking if anyone else was in love with you, (since you contributed a lot.) :cool:

Thank you! However, I'm happily married to a wonderful caring husband. I couldn't wish for any better. He loves me very much as I do him

:D

Bozana

09-23-2009, 12:31 AM

http://62.255.193.163/Richard's%20Territories%20-%20Level%2066.jpg

JJ Magnum

09-23-2009, 05:20 AM

as of level 46, I am limited to 2 drug labs and 2 wine importers. I saw the question mark for drug labs and 3 for wine importers

BigAussieAL

09-24-2009, 06:17 PM

Thank you very much Aussie! I spent at lot of mobster's money getting some of those properties. Hubby just got the meat packing plant upgrade, so I'll be taking screen shots of those and see if there is any in China town.

I'm a Cairns girl (20 yrs) from Far North Queensland and born in Mount Isa (9 yrs)! I lived in Brisbane for 7 yrs. I'm now living in the UK (over a year) Parents are still living in Cairns and I miss it a lot. UK is bloody weird! :-S Where abouts are u?

Hiya Bozana!

I'm in Sydney. I got married just three months ago and we honeymooned in Cairns. My mum's from York in the UK, and maybe one day I'll move back there. But more likely we'll move to North Queensland. Can't beat the climate and the awesome rainforest and reef.

And yeah, I too am spending money on territories I don't really want, just to provide info for the rest of the gaming community here.

This is an awesome game, hey!

Very best Bozana, mate!

Bozana

09-25-2009, 01:20 AM

Hiya Bozana!

I'm in Sydney. I got married just three months ago and we honeymooned in Cairns. My mum's from York in the UK, and maybe one day I'll move back there. But more likely we'll move to North Queensland. Can't beat the climate and the awesome rainforest and reef.

And yeah, I too am spending money on territories I don't really want, just to provide info for the rest of the gaming community here.

This is an awesome game, hey!

Very best Bozana, mate!

Hi Aussie lol!

We got married on Hamilton Island on the 28/2/08 and honeymooned up in Cape Tribulation. Saw some friends in Cairns and stayed with them. I married an Englishman lol! We live in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire. Staying here to sort our home.. enough to repair it to rent the house out and buy a home in Brisbane or north of Brisbane. Hubby wants to retire in Cairns and to be closer to my parents in Gordonvale. He loves Far North and Mackay. Stayed north of Mackay with my cousin. She owns 5 acres of land and nice house. Always cheaper to buy outside of a town then inside.. Opposite to UK lmao! I suggest to you to go to Mackay, as there is a lot of jobs going there.. and not enough people to do the jobs and the life style and lots of islands ;)

Hugs!
:D

Bozana

09-25-2009, 02:09 AM

I've checked if I can buy High-Rises for the 3rd Time and it's NOT available.. BUGGER! :( Same with the luxury Condo's.

Buying High-Rise 1st Time - Downtown:

http://62.255.193.163/High-Rise%20Residence%20-%20Buying%201st%20Time%20-%20Downtown.jpg

Buying High-Rise 2nd Time - Downtown:

http://62.255.193.163/High-Rise%20Residence%20-%20Buying%202nd%20Time%20-%20Downtown.jpg

Achievements & Classes whilst grabbing the High Rises:

http://62.255.193.163/Mob%202%20Pics/Residential%20Tycoon%20Achievement%20-%20Platnuim.jpg

http://62.255.193.163/Mob%202%20Pics/Bagman%20Class%20Unlocked%20-%20Business%20&%20Finance%20Missions.jpg

Guys, you can upload any pictures for Terriotires to this folder and just click on link below. This will enable me to do a picture version of a tree of territories and share your pictures with others and help out in this game. Make sure you name the pictures e.g.:

High-Rise - Buying 3rd time - Downtown.jpg

Upload Folder:

http://62.255.193.163/Mobsters%202%20Pics/~upload

:cool:

crashnsmash

09-26-2009, 07:10 PM

block of town houses..row of brownstones.

do you just need one of either?

I don't notice any difference from when I had 1x row of brownstone compared to now 3x block of town houses

Shampound

09-27-2009, 10:34 AM

so I guess that screenshot confirms you can no longer receive FPs from achievements?

INFOGATHERER45

09-27-2009, 03:14 PM

Thanks for the guide , it really helped me to finish Miami and Downtown . When I get to Chinatown I will document everything possible .

BigAussieAL

09-27-2009, 07:40 PM

so I guess that screenshot confirms you can no longer receive FPs from achievements?

I guess so. Fun thing about these games that they change.
To be honest, though, I think 3 Skill Points are worth a lot more than 1 or 2 Favor Points.
For me, Favor Points go to Hired Guns.
Mob size 208 => mob size 209 gives little advantage, and costs 20 FP.
3 Skill Points in Attack or Defense gives 3 x 208 = 624 increase in fight stats.
Skill Points have to be a better pay out than 10% of a typical LE item.
Wouldn't you agree?
I'm in favour of the change.

BigAussieAL

09-27-2009, 07:47 PM

I suggest to you to go to Mackay, as there is a lot of jobs going there.. and not enough people to do the jobs and the life style and lots of islands ;)

Sounds like excellent advice to me. Got a couple of things to tie up in Sydney over the next year or so. After that, little could stop me moving North. It really lifts my spirits thinking forward. Life is truly life up North. It'll have its issues, everywhere does. But sun and sky and sea, woohoohoo! :D

BigAussieAL

09-27-2009, 09:41 PM

Guys, you can upload any pictures for Terriotires to this folder and just click on link below. This will enable me to do a picture version of a tree of territories and share your pictures with others and help out in this game.
Upload Folder:
http://62.255.193.163/Mobsters%202%20Pics/~upload

I've uploaded screenshots of plain territories, after purchase and after collection, so only numbers that don't change display; but the artwork for the territory (and your tree diagram) is there.

I've also captioned a whole stack of territory images with useful information at a Facebook album called (unimaginatively) Territories (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1984&id=100000281229797&l=31a808102f).

Mouse over images for all the info, including locations of best prices.

Wilson Fisk

09-29-2009, 03:14 PM

This might be a dumb question, but, has there been a guide created which shows the enhancements from each territory? IE, I know a Pizza Parlor gives +50hp, and a chop shop gives +2% defense skill...

Ice Pick Ogie

09-29-2009, 05:23 PM

I'm back and will work on the pricing and max ownable numbers that have been posted, over the next few days.

To WilsonFisk, check the gdoc link on pg1.

ransarge

09-30-2009, 01:54 AM

Very informative very helpful no longer shooting in the dark

Bozana

09-30-2009, 11:51 AM

This might be a dumb question, but, has there been a guide created which shows the enhancements from each territory? IE, I know a Pizza Parlor gives +50hp, and a chop shop gives +2% defense skill...

I have made a guide that has the enhancements from each territory.. but I do STRONGLY suggest that you read eveything before adding comments...

Here is my guide which will change as I add more stuff to it aka Dynamic:

http://62.255.193.163/Territories%20&%20Locations.doc

:rolleyes:

Bozana

09-30-2009, 11:53 AM

I'm back and will work on the pricing and max ownable numbers that have been posted, over the next few days.

To WilsonFisk, check the gdoc link on pg1.

Welcome Back Ogie! xoxoxo

:D

Ice Pick Ogie

09-30-2009, 12:28 PM

OK, some updates today.
1. Added the class territory requirements to the 1st post and gdoc.
2. Confirmed the stats for High-Rise Residence.
3. Added the pricing information for High-Rise Residence
3. Added the Coney Island column to the pricing table on the gdoc.
confirmed that the base territories are not available there.

Still working on these other pricing updates.

BigAussieAL

09-30-2009, 10:43 PM

You are a star Ogie!
Thanks for this.

Bozana

10-01-2009, 02:15 AM

Open Issues:
1. Pricing: Please look at the pricing table in the gdoc. If you know the value of a cell please let me know.
Please be aware to comment if you have the Real Estate Negotiator as it will impact the price. To correct the price take the listed price and divide by .95

2. Need stats for the following territories still:

Weapon Shop
Construction Company
Waste Management Company
Meat-Packing Plant
Sports Arena
Racetrack
Resort Casino

3. Need to add availability for each territory for Chinatown (CT) and Coney Island (CI). So far it appears no territories are available in CI.
4. Need to know the maximum amount of territories ownable for each property.
5. Need to confirm if there is a consistent ratio for the price increase when purchasing multiple of the same property.

I've done the Meat-Packing Plant on page 6 of this thread, Oggie ;) Have a look! And yes, it does have the Real Estate Agent after a certain level and it was way before the Meat Packing Plant becomes available, when my hubby bought it when it opened up to him and I took screen shots. Hope it helps out.

:D

mcclia40

10-01-2009, 09:12 PM

This is awesome, the most complete so far. One thing I would find helpful is which territories can be purchased in which locations?

BigAussieAL

10-02-2009, 04:09 AM

This is awesome, the most complete so far. One thing I would find helpful is which territories can be purchased in which locations?

It's there in two ways. The spreadsheet tree view says where territories are available. The pricing matrix shows the same information, including where the best prices are.

BUT, you are right, the pricing matrix is incomplete. Please help if you can!

kristy999

10-03-2009, 05:59 AM

Great guide. Thanks, I find it very helpful. As previously noted, regarding the lack of on-going discussion --my guess is that your guide is so good it answers everyone's questions.

Here's a question; If you buy properties as the Landlord class with a 15% discount; is it possible to then sell them at a profit as another class?

BigAussieAL

10-03-2009, 06:36 AM

If you buy properties as the Landlord class with a 15% discount;
is it possible to then sell them at a profit as another class?

No.

In Mobsters 2: Vendetta, resale prices of most items, including territories, are 50% of a "base price".
Items, as well as territories, can be purchased in some cities at a discount on this price (though other cities sometimes charge a premium).

Territory example: a Strip Club sells for $12,000, which is half the base price of $24,000 (in Miami).
However, Strip Clubs are sold at a discount of $1,500 in the Bronx ($22,500), and $2,000 in Las Vegas ($22,000);
but they are sold at a premium of $1,125 in Jersey ($25,125), and $4,320 in Chinatown ($28,320).

Again, with items as well as territories, even when class discounts have been applied on top of city discounts,
this never brings the price down to less than 50% of the base price, so no profit is possible.

Mind you, with items, rather than territories, the 25% discount on guns available to Merchants of Death, when used in Miami--where guns are usually sold at a discount as well--does mean you are almost using guns "rent free". That is, there is little overhead in upgrading. The money you put into guns is pretty much like putting money in the bank: you can get about 90% of it back any time you like. Obviously, it's much better than money in the bank, 'cause you're using the money--it's "working" for you in every fight. The only reason not to buy stuff, when a Merchant of Death, is because you've spent everything already! Just make sure you're getting the most stat points out of that spending. ;)

If you are after profit, though, your criminal mind works exactly like mine! ;) And, you're in the right place! Territories are profitable: so long as you log in to collect the income, they return an average of more than 100% per 48 hours (from memory, I got it all on a spreadsheet). Unfortunately, we only get 12 of 'em. :(

kristy999

10-03-2009, 07:53 AM

What a well thought out reply. Thank so much! I appreciate the response.

ROBEMAN

10-03-2009, 09:44 PM

Thanks so much for all of the information! Quick question tho', at what levels do new territories open to be bought?

BigAussieAL

10-04-2009, 03:11 AM

It's all there in Ogie's guide, Robeman.
You just have to scroll down a couple of screens to see all territories listed in order of the level at which they open.
(And his "thank you" to me for the idea of laying them out that way.) ;)
Looks like we're all thinking the same way. :)

mcclia40

10-04-2009, 06:41 PM

It's there in two ways. The spreadsheet tree view says where territories are available. The pricing matrix shows the same information, including where the best prices are.

BUT, you are right, the pricing matrix is incomplete. Please help if you can!

Thanks so much, didn't realize it was there! :)

Shampound

10-04-2009, 06:44 PM

maybe because all their questions are answered with one look at your guide. :3 go-go gadget!

my guess is that your guide is so good it answers everyone's questions.

YOU STOLE MY GUESS. :mad: I KNOW YOU DID, MY SPIDEY SENSES ARE TINGLING..

Blind Fish

10-04-2009, 07:38 PM

Can someone make a guide of what properties add to your character like stamina%'s, Energy amounts, Health, Attack amount's, defense amounts, etc...???? It would be a huge help! Or if someones already made one can you tell me where it is bc I have yet to come across one.

BigAussieAL

10-04-2009, 11:45 PM

It's all there if you go to the URL at the top of the first post in this thread.

At that URL, go down to the tree view.
There are a few very high level territories needing info,
but nearly all enhancements have been entered into the tree view in the Google document.

Bozana

10-05-2009, 10:34 AM

I've finally reached to able to do the Crematorium and check out the places where it's available and prices. It's been long awaited event lol!

Here they are:

http://62.255.193.163/Mobsters%202%20Pics/Crematorium%20-%20Buying%201st%20Time%20-%20Miami.jpg

http://62.255.193.163/Mobsters%202%20Pics/Crematorium%20-%20Buying%201st%20Time%20-%20Jersey.jpg

http://62.255.193.163/Mobsters%202%20Pics/Crematorium%20-%20Per%20Hour.jpg

:D

GEANNY

10-05-2009, 11:15 AM

Hello

OppKillYou-ATL

10-05-2009, 01:34 PM

sports arena is 4% stamina regeneration

Bozana

10-05-2009, 09:37 PM

sports arena is 4% stamina regeneration

Do you have a screen shot of it? If so, could you upload it to my server and I'll post it.

Upload Folder:

http://62.255.193.163/Mobsters%202%20Pics/~upload

How to PRINT SCREEN on Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7 Computer

Why doesn't that Print Screen key do anything?

To make Print Screen work, you must save an image of what's displayed on-screen to the clipboard and then paste it into a document where it can be saved or printed.

To do this, follow this procedure:
1. Maximize the window you'd like to capture.
2. To copy/capture the current window, hold down ALT + Print Scrn at the same time. To capture the entire screen, just press Print Scrn.
3. Open a MS Photo Editor, or Adobe PhotoShop or Click on Start then click on Programs, then click on Accessories, then click on Paint.
4. Paste the screen shot by holding down CTRL and V at the same time.
5. Click on File, then click on Save As and name the picture and select .jpg in the drop down box and then click on Save or Ok.

;)

Ice Pick Ogie

10-06-2009, 09:51 AM

Achievements & Classes whilst grabbing the High Rises:

http://62.255.193.163/Mob%202%20Pics/Residential%20Tycoon%20Achievement%20-%20Platnuim.jpg

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This is weird, looks like they are still modifying what you get for achievements. I received a FP not skill points.

You Gained a Residential Tycoon Achievement
You get a shiny new medal to show on your mob profile page for owning 2 Luxury Condo Communities and 2 High-Rise Residences.
You earned 1 favor points.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-06-2009, 10:01 AM

Updated the pricing info for the Luxury Condo
Updated the pricing and corrected the max for Crematorium. (thanks Bozana)

Still have more info from people I'm trying to dig through.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-06-2009, 10:19 AM

sports arena is 4% stamina regeneration

Updated the enhancement. Still need the available locations, pricing, income and max details if you have it.

peterlin

10-06-2009, 10:33 AM

Level 55 or above, What is the upgrade price to Casino from Gmbling Parlors at Vegas ?

$outh$ide

10-06-2009, 11:39 AM

Can somebody please tell me where the high rise is?

Bozana

10-07-2009, 12:06 PM

Level 55 or above, What is the upgrade price to Casino from Gmbling Parlors at Vegas ?

Can somebody please tell me where the high rise is?

If you read from page 1 and seen the guide there from Ogie, and read the rest of this thread, you will come across my post on page 7, pictures of the high rise location and costs. PLEASE READ OGIE'S GUIDE FOR TERRITORIES! :eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes:

PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE POSTING A COMMENT HERE! THE INFORMATION IS THERE! :mad: :rolleyes:

It's ok to post something that we don't know about or something NEW but not something that's already been posted and contributed by us. I consider people who don't read the entire thread LAZY BUGGERS! FFS OPEN YOUR EYES! Yes, we are here to help but we're not your servants either... :mad: :rolleyes:

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Doctor Money

10-08-2009, 09:20 AM

Fence Operations PLATx3
Upgrade from: Pawn Shop
Upgrade available: B,M,V
Level Requirement: 44
Income: $3,600/180min, $1,200hr
Max: $28,800, (3)
Enhancements: None

----> Cost is: $132750 (B), $135,000 (M), $140,500 (V)

I'm not 100% positive about these, I am a landlord currently (so I can afford these) and had to do a bit of math to find out what the unadjusted prices would be. Thanks for the great guide! - Dr Money

BigAussieAL

10-08-2009, 10:02 PM

The late, celebrated sexologist, Dr John Money (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money), I presume?

Thank you for the Fence Operations info. It confirms the numbers I have for this territory also. It can also be cashed-in (though who would do that?) for $70,250.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-11-2009, 09:07 AM

DonJezebel

10-11-2009, 09:18 AM

Can one of ya'll explain why I have the Manage a Chop Shop at level 19 (not 21 as stated above)? Also, I have completed all the missions to Platinum except that one and for DAYS have had no new missions and it will take me a month to get all the forged car titles I need...getting very, very boring to just clicking the first mission to get the $$....is this a 'glitch' in my game (ie. supposed to be level 21)??

BigAussieAL

10-11-2009, 09:19 AM

Thanks to xunobulax I've made the following updates to the gdoc pricing.

completed pricing information for pawn shop, funeral parlor, importer, drug lab, olive oil importer, tomato sauce importer, fence operations, wine importer

Also, thanks to Doctor Money for the fence ops information.

The pricing info is looking really good.
I've got 12 prices to add, and a few "not availables".

I noticed these were still needed.
(Prices have been adjusted to base price.)

Cement Factory
Bronx $24,250
Downtown na
Miami $25,600
Jersey na
Vegas na
Chinatown unknown

Meat-Packing Plant
Bronx na
Downtown $51,840
Miami na
Jersey na
Vegas $43,200
Chinatown $46,800

Chinatown
Gambling Parlor $15,525
Strip Club $28,320
Boxing Hall $22,840
Slaughterhouse $17,620

I also noticed a systematic error.

Escort Agency
Prices in the current list are for a second Agency, not the first.
They are exactly double my figures.
The resale value of $18,500 supports my figures:
Bronx na
Downtown $42,750
Miami $37,800
Jersey na
Vegas $36,000
Chinatown unknown

There were three other cells where I have very slightly different info to the gdoc sheet,
but I'll check my own figures again before suggesting a correction.

DonJezebel

10-11-2009, 09:20 AM

Also, I keep reading about 'mini' games/missions....I see no offering for them anywhere??

JoralG

10-11-2009, 09:21 AM

Thank you so much for putting this together. Keeping track of what territories are available at each level, which one's upgrade into which other ones, which ones are needed for jobs or achievements and the bonus provided by the various properties; was getting to be a major headache and I wasn't managing my territory very well because I didn't want to deal with it.

This guide is not only informative but very logically organized and readably laid out. So to repeat the list at the bottom of the Google Document
Thank you to:
Migu - the original poster in the first guide who really got the ball rolling.
Shampound - for putting the Achievements thread together.
BigAussieAL - for his good idea to put the territories in order.
Bozana & BigAussieAL - for putting together pricing information.
Steeler14 - for putting the Class requirements thread together.
J. Daniels, A. Katalichenko - for providing maximum territories ownable
And Ice Pick Ogie for doing such a great job at organizing the info into a clean professional looking format.

You all rock!

Ice Pick Ogie

10-11-2009, 10:41 AM

The pricing info is looking really good.
I've got 12 prices to add, and a few "not availables".

I noticed these were still needed.
(Prices have been adjusted to base price.)

Cement Factory
Bronx $24,250
Downtown na
Miami $25,600
Jersey na
Vegas na
Chinatown unknown

Meat-Packing Plant
Bronx na
Downtown $51,840
Miami na
Jersey na
Vegas $43,200
Chinatown $46,800

Chinatown
Gambling Parlor $15,525
Strip Club $28,320
Boxing Hall $22,840
Slaughterhouse $17,620

I also noticed a systematic error.

Escort Agency
Prices in the current list are for a second Agency, not the first.
They are exactly double my figures.
The resale value of $18,500 supports my figures:
Bronx na
Downtown $42,750
Miami $37,800
Jersey na
Vegas $36,000
Chinatown unknown

There were three other cells where I have very slightly different info to the gdoc sheet,
but I'll check my own figures again before suggesting a correction.

Made the updates to the gdoc. Thanks.

FatDragon

10-12-2009, 12:50 AM

Question regarding Factory branch: does the critical hit bonus count for spirited defenses as well, or does it only give critical hits while attacking?

BigAussieAL

10-12-2009, 01:58 AM

Question regarding Factory branch: does the critical hit bonus count for spirited defenses as well, or does it only give critical hits while attacking?

Great question, but really a combat question.

As I understand it (but someone might correct me)
Critical Hits and Spirited Defense are sort of the same thing, 'cept that one is for attack and the other for defense.
Again, as I understand it, CH ups your attack score for individual fights (at random),
and so you do more, and take less, damage in that fight.
Same same for SD, it ups your defense score for individual fights (at random),
and so you take less, and do more, damage in that fight.

I believe Spirited Defense also restores you to Max Health.
My guess is that CH may temporarily up your attack by 20% and SD ups your defense by 10%.
The exact percentages probably don't matter much,
but I think I've noticed that when I get CHs and the defender gets SDs,
I still win if I normally win, and maybe by a squeak of a larger margin.

So back to the original question. Simple answer: No.
CH and SD are totally different, one for attack, one for defense.
Yet they're kind of the same, 'cause they kind of do the same thing,
just depending on which side of the fight you're on.

Basara549

10-12-2009, 02:46 AM

I did some property rearranging, as a result of going for some achievements, a class unlock, and boosting my energy, and discovered by accident that I could now buy Apartment Complexes in Jersey.

Don of Montepulciano

10-12-2009, 06:10 AM

FatDragon

10-12-2009, 06:58 AM

Great question, but really a combat question.

As I understand it (but someone might correct me)
Critical Hits and Spirited Defense are sort of the same thing, 'cept that one is for attack and the other for defense.
Again, as I understand it, CH ups your attack score for individual fights (at random),
and so you do more, and take less, damage in that fight.
Same same for SD, it ups your defense score for individual fights (at random),
and so you take less, and do more, damage in that fight.

I believe Spirited Defense also restores you to Max Health.
My guess is that CH may temporarily up your attack by 20% and SD ups your defense by 10%.
The exact percentages probably don't matter much,
but I think I've noticed that when I get CHs and the defender gets SDs,
I still win if I normally win, and maybe by a squeak of a larger margin.

So back to the original question. Simple answer: No.
CH and SD are totally different, one for attack, one for defense.
Yet they're kind of the same, 'cause they kind of do the same thing,
just depending on which side of the fight you're on.
I don't know about the max health thing with spirited defense (if it's true, I've never observed it while I was playing), and I'm inclined to believe that the CH and SD bonuses are identical, but that's neither here nor there.

My question is essentially this: regarding the number of Warehouse-branch territories that are said to increase critical hit percentage, does critical hit only refer to "Critical Hit" percentage (i.e. attacking only), or does it refer to both "Critical Hit" and "Spirited Defense" percentages? In other words, does 'critical hit' in the territory bonus description refer to the game-specific "Critical Hit", or is it the abstract critical hit, which encompasses any situation (offensive or defensive) in which extra-powerful hits occur?

I ask because I've got a couple territory slots that could be reassigned - I still need a bunch of defensive wins to unlock defender, and boosting my SD% would be huge (don't tell me to add points to defense, I've been doing that, but I started off with way too much energy because of my experience with other games like this and I'm playing catch-up now...). Kind've a pain in the ass to be in my situation - the best ways to boost your SD rate are to be a defender and to get the Tactical Shield, but I need a higher SD rate now if I want to accomplish either of those within the next few months...

michale

10-12-2009, 03:08 PM

all you need for your guide is a list of bonuses for each territory

Bdawgfl

10-13-2009, 03:17 PM

Waste Management Co. PLATx2

Upgrade from: Incinerator
Upgrade available:
Level Requirement: 83
Income: $1800 210 min
Max: , (?)
Enhancements: 4% Critical Hit, 3% attack strength

Cipriano

10-13-2009, 06:48 PM

FatDragon

10-13-2009, 07:36 PM

For now, I want my territories to provide the best income possible. That would be achieved by buying 12 Fence Operations, theorically. However, a lot of cash is required for one to buy them as buying territories of the same kind make expenses grow, and it would take a LOT of time for them to payout.

Maybe it would be better to buy 1 of each of the 12 territories with best income? While I'd still be paying for what I wasted by building the Fence operations, I'd have already paid the territories of this second option, and already having profit.

Opinions?
There are maximum amounts of any given territory you can own - so you can't get 12 Fence Ops even if you had the cash. I have pretty good cashflow with 2 Fence Ops, 2 Olive Oil Importers, 2 Tomato Sauce Importers, a Wine Importer, and 2 Drug Labs, plus a few extras for mission reqs or bonuses. Doubling or tripling up on territories is expensive in the beginning, but the increased income potential over time is definitely worth it, unless you're just going to be using these territories to make some short-term cash and then sell them for territories with bonuses (in which case you probably have better routes to take).

Remember, if you double up on a territory, upgrade one before you start building up the second - it would suck to pay twice as much for every step of your second territory, instead of just the last step.

calj01

10-14-2009, 02:18 AM

This is - by far - the most current and relevant guide I have come across! There are a ton of so-called guides that you can find when you do a Google search but none have the detail your guide has. I wanted to say THANK YOU

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 08:34 AM

Waste Management Co. PLATx2

Upgrade from: Incinerator
Upgrade available:
Level Requirement: 83
Income: $1800 210 min
Max: , (?)
Enhancements: 4% Critical Hit, 3% attack strength

Thanks. Updated the gdoc. Please let me know if you find out the upgrade locations or the max income

drlenr

10-14-2009, 09:16 AM

my apologies if this question is repetative, but what combination of items and properties will give me the fastest ENERGY regeneration?

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 10:07 AM

OK, here is a starter energy build that we can discuss. I'm sure there are better ways so post up your ideas and I'll post the final version on pg1.

Build Type: Energy
Level Req: 63
Territories:
(3) Gated Mansion: +50 energy (x3= +150)
(3) Luxury Condo: 4% energy regen (4%=2.4sec, x3=7.2sec)
(3) High-Rise Residence: 2% energy regen (2%=1.2sec, x3=3.6sec)
(3) Fence Operations: $1,250 per hour
Total Bonuses
Income: $5,970hr
Health: None
Energy: +150 energy, 10.8 sec reduction in energy timer.
Stamina: none
Fight: none
Explanation: The energy build uses the gated mansion to jump max energy, and Luxury Condo and High-Rise Residence to increase the energy regeneration rate. It then uses 3 fence ops to jump the hourly income. The energy regeneration rate is shown as a reduction in the timer for the next energy refill.

The math on energy: We start with a base of 60 seconds per energy
60sec x 1% = 0.6 second reduction in the timer for every 1% increase in regeneration speed.

This build gives a net reduction of 18%
0.6 x 18 = 10.8 second reduction in the timer.

If you add in the 5% (3 sec reduction) from the slurpee machine you get 13.8 seconds off of the starting 60 seconds.
So you should be at 47 seconds (I believe the game averages down)

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 10:40 AM

Noticed an anamoly.

Landlord must have some wierd application to prices. Purchased a Fence opperation last night as land lord and price offered was 119,475. The odd thing was that this price was Consistent, reguardless of town (jersey, bronx and china town). The same thing occurred when buying a Casino price was 45K in vegas, jersey and china town.

Maybe someone with more money to burn can test Land lord, perhaps there is a Base price which a property can't be reduced below.

IMPORTANT
I think there might have been a major update to the pricing structure in the game.

I recently bought a Crematorium. I went to each location to check the price and it was consistently 68,400 and was available in every location. I finally bought the property in Coney Island (which previously didn't have any territories available for purchase).

Note that I did have the Real Estate Negotiator discount of 5% so the actual price of the Crematorium is 72,000. I was not using any character class that impacts territory.

It would appear that they have restructured the territory pricing setup so that each territory is available in every city at the same price.

1. Is this comment accurate for all territories?
2. If yes, need to know the new 'single price' for every territory.

This is obviously a major change to the way things have been if true and would require some heavy updates to the gdoc if true.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 10:57 AM

OK, I'm pretty sure I have confirmed the above post is true.

I am starting a listing of the 'single price' for territories for us all to work on. This is a pain in the short term, but much easier in the long-term. Please help populate this information.

0 Gas Station $900
0 Slum $2,000
0 Dive Bar $4,500
2 Storefront $9,000
3 Old Warehouse $5,400
5 Sportsbook $4,500
7 Pizza Parlour
10 Row of Brownstones
12 Sub-Division
13 Pawn Shop $41,250
15 Factory
17 Diner
18 Gambling Parlor
21 Chop Shop
23 Funeral Parlour $31,500
24 Strip Club
25 Block of Town Houses
26 Importer $36,000
28 Boxing Hall
31 Drug Lab
33 Slaughterhouse
34 Stable
36 Olive Oil Importer
37 Italian Bakery
38 Apartment Complex
40 Tomato Sauce Importer
42 Cement Factory
43 Escort Agency
44 Fence Operations
46 Wine Importer
48 Gated Mansion
50 Ristorante
52 Incinerator
55 Casino
58 Fancy Nightclub
61 Luxury Condo Community
63 High-Rise Residence
66 Meat-Packing Plant
70 Crematorium $72,000
75 Racetrack
83 Waste Management Company
87 Weapon Shop
92 Construction Company
96 Sports Arena
99 Resort Casino

I also confirmed that the price indeed exactly doubles for each territory of the same type you purchase.

drlenr

10-14-2009, 11:30 AM

so what is the maximum amount of Luxury Condos you can own?

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 11:35 AM

so what is the maximum amount of Luxury Condos you can own?

Nobody has provided that yet. Rough guess is 3, but let me know if you confirm.

drlenr

10-14-2009, 11:56 AM

just found out the hard way, Max 2 Luxury Condos and 2 High Rises

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 11:58 AM

ok, so you got the message saying 'reached limit' or whatever it says.

So, that changes the strategy for enery build.

Also, updated the max on the gdoc. Thanks.

BigAussieAL

10-14-2009, 01:43 PM

I'd like someone to confirm this, but it seems to me that territory availability and pricing has changed. It seems like territories are now available everywhere at the same price. A bit disappointing, because it was fun checking around, however, it does leave the strategy in territories, without the annoying detail of spending money zipping around to find availability and best price. Personally disappointing for me, but a good move by Playdom, in my opinion.

Mind you, this could simply be the result of gaining a Real Estate Negotiator, which I just did. Don't think so though. Seems like a deliberate (and smart) game modification.

PS I see Ogie beat me to this discovery. I think we've confirmed one another. :)

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 01:54 PM

I do have the RE Negotiator as well. Lets see if anyone who doesn't have that has the same pricing in all regions.

Shampound

10-14-2009, 01:55 PM

PS I see Ogie beat me to this discovery. I think we've confirmed one another. :)

great minds think alike. personally, I think you two should marry. :D

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 02:02 PM

great minds think alike. personally, I think you two should marry. :D

Now I see where your mind is at Shampound..I saw that picture of man-abs you posted in the wiki thread.

Don of Montepulciano

10-14-2009, 02:36 PM

BigAussieAL

10-14-2009, 04:39 PM

Bah, I posted this first when I noticed that prices were consitent everywhere. I blamed it on being land lord class though (just got my negotiator too AL :p )

Way to go, Don Magnifico! :)

Shampound

10-14-2009, 04:46 PM

Now I see where your mind is at Shampound..I saw that picture of man-abs you posted in the wiki thread.

Did you like what you see? :o (lmfao, i'm laughing right now).

Ice Pick Ogie

10-14-2009, 08:16 PM

Too funny Shampound.

On a side note I updated the achievements sections on page 1 with the following:

Note:
The Platinum for Commercial is an exception as the territories for platinum are available before the territory for gold.

I have tested and you DO NOT get the FP for Gold if you do the Platinum achievement first.
If you decide to get the Platinum achievement before the Gold, I have confirmed that you can still get the FP for Gold achievement once the Crematorium is available, and the medal on your Mobsters page will remain platinum.

Shampound

10-14-2009, 08:34 PM

well, if anything, I didn't post that picture of abs. =P It was one of the ads that was up when I screenshotted, (you were supposed to pay attention to the part highlighted in red.) D:

insomniac

10-14-2009, 10:57 PM

dunno if this has been posted.....
stripclubs and chopshops are limited to 4 each

Ice Pick Ogie

10-15-2009, 09:06 AM

dunno if this has been posted.....
stripclubs and chopshops are limited to 4 each

Thanks insomniac. Didn't have the strip club. It has been added to the gdoc.

Keep em coming

BigAussieAL

10-15-2009, 09:28 AM

Note:
The Platinum for Commercial is an exception as the territories for platinum are available before the territory for gold.

I have tested and you DO NOT get the FP for Gold if you do the Platinum achievement first.
If you decide to get the Platinum achievement before the Gold, I have confirmed that you can still get the FP for Gold achievement once the Crematorium is available, and the medal on your Mobsters page will remain platinum.

Thanks so much, Ogie, for this vital information. I've been holding off on Plat Commercial not wanting to lose the FPs. Now I'll go ahead and confirm your finding. I can also be more decisive about territory purchase stategy in the middle levels in the detailed strategy thread.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-15-2009, 10:10 AM

A few updates to the gdoc have been added.

1. Due to the pricing methodology change for territory, the original pricing by location table has been moved to an appendix. Keeping it just in case the developer reverts.

2. A new Detailed Table View is under development. (completed minus unknown items)
- Updated the field descriptions for each category.
- This includes math on calculating regen timer reductions.

3. Added a new section 'Territory Impacting Classes, Avatar Items and Equipment'.
- This includes math on determining base price for anyone who want to help with pricing details.
Added thanks to Shampound as much of this was pulled from the Unique Loot thread.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-15-2009, 10:21 AM

Hey BigAussie, can you help me with something.

Want to add the levels the territory slots open. I believe you have that.

BigAussieAL

10-15-2009, 02:10 PM

Hey BigAussie, can you help me with something.

Want to add the levels the territory slots open. I believe you have that.

My pleasure

4 slots open at Level 1
5th slot unlocked at Level 3
6th slot unlocked at Level 6
7th slot unlocked at Level 8
8th slot unlocked at Level 12
9th slot unlocked at Level 15
10th slot unlocked at Level 19
11th slot unlocked at Level 23
12th slot unlocked at Level 27

Ice Pick Ogie

10-15-2009, 02:21 PM

My pleasure

4 slots open at Level 1
5th slot unlocked at Level 3
6th slot unlocked at Level 6
7th slot unlocked at Level 8
8th slot unlocked at Level 12
9th slot unlocked at Level 15
10th slot unlocked at Level 19
11th slot unlocked at Level 23
12th slot unlocked at Level 27

You rock. Updated the gdoc.

Kellisanth

10-15-2009, 08:09 PM

My pleasure

Territory blocks levels...

Thanks! I've been wondering when I will be able to fill in that 12th slot. :D

Using the cookie cutter "Attack" model of territory, but instead of three pawn shops, will have two pawns and one residential.

Bozana

10-16-2009, 03:53 PM

I guess my hard work went through the window if they've changed the pricing... BUGGER!!

:(

ld_ruiz69

10-16-2009, 07:39 PM

I got the stats on the racetrack:

Income: $2,625/240min
Max: $28,875
Enchancements: +6 Increase in Max Energy
Available: All territories

BigAussieAL

10-17-2009, 02:44 AM

I guess my hard work went through the window if they've changed the pricing... BUGGER!!

:(

True, Bozana, but that's life in the world of online gaming, the rules are always changing.

The big picture is that the game has lost an interesting feature, but probably to the great relief of the majority of its players.

And the good news for you and I and Ogie and others is: we can relax and not worry about tracking down the rest of the info for people. ;)

... and, we will all remember how you came to our rescue when we needed you most. :D

BigAussieAL

10-17-2009, 02:45 AM

I got the stats on the racetrack:

Income: $2,625/240min
Max: $28,875
Enchancements: +6 Increase in Max Energy
Available: All territories

You legend! :D

Do you mean "6 stamina increase in max stamina" by any chance?

Ice Pick Ogie

10-17-2009, 09:11 AM

You legend! :D

Do you mean "6 stamina increase in max stamina" by any chance?

Also, ruiz do you have the price by chance.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-17-2009, 09:12 AM

Well, now we need to redo the pricing information. Here is what we have so far.

0 Gas Station $900
0 Slum $2,000
0 Dive Bar $4,500
2 Storefront $9,000
3 Old Warehouse $5,400
5 Sportsbook $4,500
7 Pizza Parlour
10 Row of Brownstones
12 Sub-Division
13 Pawn Shop $41,250
15 Factory
17 Diner
18 Gambling Parlor
21 Chop Shop
23 Funeral Parlour $31,500
24 Strip Club
25 Block of Town Houses
26 Importer $36,000
28 Boxing Hall
31 Drug Lab
33 Slaughterhouse
34 Stable
36 Olive Oil Importer
37 Italian Bakery
38 Apartment Complex
40 Tomato Sauce Importer
42 Cement Factory
43 Escort Agency
44 Fence Operations
46 Wine Importer
48 Gated Mansion
50 Ristorante
52 Incinerator
55 Casino
58 Fancy Nightclub
61 Luxury Condo Community
63 High-Rise Residence
66 Meat-Packing Plant
70 Crematorium $72,000
75 Racetrack
83 Waste Management Company
87 Weapon Shop
92 Construction Company
96 Sports Arena
99 Resort Casino

spcdw

10-17-2009, 09:20 AM

I don't know if it's in the gdoc or not (can't open it at work, it's blocked for some reason) and I haven't been able to find it in any other territory guide so far, but does anyone have a list of the stat buffs the territories give? It would be a handy reference to have, since after I purchase a land it no longer shows me what buffs it gives.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-17-2009, 09:51 AM

Ice Pick Ogie

10-17-2009, 09:52 AM

OK, the gdoc Tree View table has been updated now to remove the available upgrade locations and add in price.

spcdw

10-17-2009, 09:55 AM

Yes, its all detailed in the gdoc.

:( wish I could see it... I guess I'll just have to use that one when I get home

Thanks for all the work you put into keeping this up to date btw

SethA

10-18-2009, 07:46 PM

Just providing some data that is missing in the guide. The maximum number of casinos is 3. I tried to upgrade another gambling parlor and it told me I was at the max number of casinos already.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-19-2009, 01:35 PM

Thanks a lot. I'll update the gdoc.

I'd like to put a strategy together for how to use territories to obtain the stat achievements once we get enough max territory information.

For example, if the Racetrack is a +6 to stamina, you could own 3 to +18 stamina. Then you would only need to get the base up to 32. Could do similar for energy and health to 2000 for platinum.

So keep those max territory numbers coming :D

SethA

10-19-2009, 05:34 PM

Right there with ya on the stat achievement thing. I already used that type of trick to get 30 stamina and 500 health. I'm not sure your current level, but if I get the racetrack before you do, I'll be trying that and will post my results and any other stats I come across since I regularly use your guide myself. Thanks for your work on this.

BTW, do you know of any good item guides, like what city has the best price on item X? I can't seem to get good search results from Google.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-20-2009, 06:15 AM

I'm lvl 73 currently.

I have used this for items..not complete enough though.

ITEMS (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AghHWtTAqLYSdEJNTjMybkttMmlTczZ4SjVSc0lCb Wc&hl=en)

SethA

10-20-2009, 08:21 AM

If you are 73, then I won't be as much help to you as I thought I might. I have another tidbit. The Fancy Nightclub has a max of 2.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-20-2009, 08:27 AM

If you are 73, then I won't be as much help to you as I thought I might. I have another tidbit. The Fancy Nightclub has a max of 2.

Thanks again. Those numbers are super helpful for strategy. Still a long way to go on those numbers though :(

Ice Pick Ogie

10-20-2009, 08:29 AM

Made some updates to the first page today to incorporate some information from the gdoc.

Added beginners information sections to show slot information and give more details on the various territory categories. Also had to move 3 sections from the first post to the 3rd due to the character limit in posts.

Also added a section to the 2nd post 'Using Territories for the Stat Achievements'

Note: This will be completed when the maximum ownable numbers for each territory are known.

Don of Montepulciano

10-20-2009, 09:18 AM

Some prices for you. I have negotiator but prices are converted to true, although may be off by $1.

Chop Shop: 26,250
Factory: 15,750
Slaughter House: 20,250
Cement Factory: 27,000
Incinerator: 32,400
Boxing Hall: 26,250
Gambling Parlor: 13,500
Town Houses: 12,200
Drug Lab: 93,500

There ya go, I'll add waste management when I get.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-20-2009, 09:55 AM

thanks Don. Great info. Added you to the thanks list.

Some more information I tested today.
Max Olive Oil Importers is 3
Tomato Sauce Importer 99,000
Wine Importer 90,000

Also, added a complete list of all the information we still need to the first page....so do your part and keep that information coming :D

Ice Pick Ogie

10-20-2009, 01:30 PM

Don of Montepulciano

10-20-2009, 03:17 PM

Application Issue?

I am currently in the Money Man class which gives a 5% increase in territory income.

The increase is not showing on any of the individual territories.
The collect button after 1 collect period does not show the increase.
Collecting the money does not net the bonus either.

Can anyone else confirm that this is not working properly?

Noticed this with Landlord as well, and it has been posted in several other threads. Playdom either hasn't seen the threads or doesn't care, since it seems to have been around for a while.

Crooked accountant does work though, reduces payout time by 5% and even updates the $/hr listed accordingly.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-20-2009, 03:46 PM

Noticed this with Landlord as well, and it has been posted in several other threads. Playdom either hasn't seen the threads or doesn't care, since it seems to have been around for a while.

Crooked accountant does work though, reduces payout time by 5% and even updates the $/hr listed accordingly.

Submitted a support ticket. Hopefully they will investigate.

Ian Don

10-20-2009, 04:10 PM

My first post goes to you for massive respect for suppling us with such an awsome guide Congrats and well done.!

Ice Pick Ogie

10-20-2009, 04:21 PM

thanks and welcome.

FatDragon

10-22-2009, 01:59 AM

I have tested and you DO NOT get the FP for Gold if you do the Platinum achievement first.
If you decide to get the Platinum achievement before the Gold, I have confirmed that you can still get the FP for Gold achievement once the Crematorium is available.

For posterity's sake, which is it?

Oh, the guide's excellent, by the way, just the sort of thing we need around here. Now if only the mission guide were brought up to this kind of quality...

Ice Pick Ogie

10-22-2009, 07:45 AM

Here is a breakdown of how it worked.
1. I got the Platinum achievement first once the territories were available.
- I received 1FP
- My Mobster page achievement badge turned to platinum.
2. Once Crematorium was available I got the gold achievement.
- I recevied 1FP
- My Mobster page achievement badge remained platinum.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-22-2009, 09:23 AM

I added a Return on Investment (ROI) field to the Table View on the gdoc.

Here is the explanation that was added:
Return On Investment(ROI):
The ROI field is used to determine how long it will take to start making money on a territory. Since you have to pay for a territory you don't actually start making money on a territory until you have received a return on your investment to cover the cost of the territory.

The ROI value shows the number of collection periods for each territory to cover your original investment.

Math on Return On Investment
ROI is determined by taking the price paid and dividing by the income from the income/min column. Income/min is considered 1 collection period.

For example:
Importer price = $36,000
Income/min = $1,050/150min

36,000 / 1,050 = 34.29 = 35 (Note: the number is always rounded up to cover any incremental cost)

The final value 35 shows that it will take 35 collection periods of 150 minutes each to get your money back from purchasing the territory.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-22-2009, 10:14 AM

made a correction today: I had previously stated that reduction in timers (energy, health, and stamina) rounded down. This is actually incorrect. It rounds up which is good news for us.

As an example I have a 7% active reduction in my health timer. The base timer starts at 3min or 180 seconds. 180 x 1% = 1.8 x 7 = 12.6. I show a reduction in my health time of 13 seconds, or 12.6 rounded up.

WoodsieLord

10-22-2009, 09:53 PM

I just upgraded my first pizza parlor (from the dive bar game gives you from a quest) at 10800.

Is that what you were looking for?

Ice Pick Ogie

10-23-2009, 09:55 AM

I just upgraded my first pizza parlor (from the dive bar game gives you from a quest) at 10800.

Is that what you were looking for?

Thanks. I am assuming that this early in the game you do not have any items that impact the base price of territories, correct?

Ice Pick Ogie

10-23-2009, 09:57 AM

Today I confirmed that the price doubles the last price paid every time you purchase a new territory of the same type. So the 3rd territory owned is the original price x 4.

As an example:
Tomato Importer #1: 99,000
Tomato Importer #2: 198,000
Tomato Importer #3: 396,000

Ice Pick Ogie

10-23-2009, 10:23 AM

Here is a best income build availble once you hit level 46. I will add another one later for a level 99 build once we have the remaining territory information.

Build Type: Best Income Build (Level 46)
Level Req: 46
Territories:
(3) Fence Operations: $1,250 per hour
(3) Tomato Sauce Importer: $975 per hour
(3) Olive Oil Importer: $866 per hour
(3) Wine Importer: $771 per hour

Total Bonuses
Income: $11,586hr
Health: none
Energy: none
Stamina: none
Fight: none
Explanation: The best income build uses the maximum number available for all of the best income territories. This build does not give bonuses to any stat categories.

TKitch

10-23-2009, 11:46 AM

And a note, if you're short on cash?

Build one of each of those 4. Then one each of the prior upgrade.

That gets you the highest return, without paying the double cost for having 2 of a building.

Damone331

10-23-2009, 05:41 PM

This is outstanding work! I'm only at level 38 right now but it really gives me something to shoot for. Thanks!

Ice Pick Ogie

10-24-2009, 10:27 AM

Found some more information today:

Olive Oil Importer: Price is $121,500
Tomato Sauce Importer: Max ownable is 3
Crematorium: Max ownable is 2
Stable: Price is $21,000, max ownable 3
Racetrack: Price is $75,600 (confirmed +6 stamina), max ownable 1

The real assman

10-24-2009, 11:47 AM

i cant see the "bonuses" for different buildings anymore? Is it a update glitch?

Ice Pick Ogie

10-24-2009, 12:01 PM

Usually you can only see the 'bonuses' when you go to buy a territory.

Do you have the original view or the new 3D looking view?

The real assman

10-24-2009, 02:15 PM

had the 3D but now its gone =)

Ice Pick Ogie

10-25-2009, 10:36 AM

a few more updates.

Casino: price is $50,500
Gambling Parlor: max ownable 4
Boxing Hall: max ownable 3

Ice Pick Ogie

10-25-2009, 10:55 AM

I think I have finalized a strategy for getting the stamina achievement via territories without having to put a ton of points into stamina.

Stamina: How to get the stamina achievement at level 75
B 10
S 20
G 30
P 50

Strategy:
Minimum level required: 75
Territories to purchase:
(1) - Racetrack (+6 stamina each, +6 total stamina, $82,200 total cost)
(3) - Stable (+4 stamina each, +12 total stamina, $160,500 total cost)
(3) - Casino (+3 stamina each, +9 total stamina, $407,500 total cost)
(4) - Gambling Parlor (+1stamina each, +4 total stamina,$220,500 )

Total stamina increase: 31
Total territory Cost: $870,700
Minimum stat points required: 19

19 base stamina stat points plus the 31 stamina increase from the above territories will give you the platinum achievement.

Also highly recommend opening the Hitman class which gives a bonus of +10 to stamina. You can use this to either decrease the base stat points needed to place on stamina, or reduce the number of territories you need to purchase.

You can view Fat Dragon's post on how to open this class (works well)

WoodsieLord

10-25-2009, 08:22 PM

Thanks. I am assuming that this early in the game you do not have any items that impact the base price of territories, correct?

Sorry for the late reply. Yes, this is my first game, and I have not completed any tiers or received any bonus items.

WoodsieLord

10-25-2009, 08:27 PM

Sorry for the late reply. Yes, this is my first game, and I have not completed any tiers or received any bonus items.

And on that note, I see the Sub-Division at 7200 and Row of Browstones at 6300.

alfredteoh

10-26-2009, 12:46 AM

good guide

Ice Pick Ogie

10-26-2009, 07:46 AM

And on that note, I see the Sub-Division at 7200 and Row of Browstones at 6300.

Excellent. Thanks and keep em coming. Also, if you find any max ownable numbers let me know. Those seem to be the hardest to come by.

Giga_Tarek

10-27-2009, 01:17 AM

thats right . . . every thing here clear & simple also every thing answered lol :) thats why no one post any thing :)

Shampound

10-28-2009, 03:17 AM

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awesome thread, keep it up!

Ice Pick Ogie

10-28-2009, 06:36 AM

http://www.insidesocal.com/tv/Jesus%20Christ%20Thumbs%20up.jpg

awesome thread, keep it up!

Awww yeah!! Buddy Jesus is in the house.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-29-2009, 02:20 PM

Found more information today:

Sub-Division max ownable is 4
Gated Mansion price is 13,000, max ownable is 3
Row of Brownstones max ownable is 4
Apartment Complex price is 17,300, max ownable is 3
High-Rise residence price is 36,000, max ownable is 2
Block of Townhouses price is 12,200, max ownable is 3
Luxury Condo Community price is 24,000, max ownable is 2

This completes all information on the slum tier.

Ice Pick Ogie

10-29-2009, 02:55 PM

Since the slum tier is complete we can now determine the strategy to use territories to gain the energy achievement.

Energy
B 200
S 500
G 1000
P 2000

Strategy:
Minimum level required: 63
Territories to purchase:
(3) - Gated Mansion (+50 energy each, +150 total, $118,600 total cost)
(2) - High-Rise Residence (+40 energy each, +80 total, $159,200 total cost)
(4) - Sub-Division (+25 energy each, +100 total, $116,000 total cost)
(3) - Apartment Complex (+20 energy each, +60 total, $146,000 total cost)

Total Energy Increase: 390 points
Total Territory Cost: $539,800
Minimum energy required: 1610

Note that a single stat point will give you +10 to energy. I believe you start with 100 energy points, so 1510/10 = 151 base stat points plus the above territories will give you the platinum achievement.

Also note that if you get the Secret Sauce Recipe this will give you a permanent +30 to energy which will reduce the base stats required. Please see the mini-games thread for details on obtaining the recipe.

Inter.196

10-30-2009, 11:57 PM

Great guide! Question: Right now I am using blocks of townhouses to regenerate energy faster as well as other territories for other things. If I sell these properties, do I lose their advancements like the extra health and stamina I got from buying them in the first place?

Ice Pick Ogie

10-31-2009, 09:13 AM

yes, enhancements are only active while you own the territories.

Don thug

11-01-2009, 05:12 AM

I'd be interested in stat effects for each of the teritories. also cost of making each level of the terotories and income for each type would be important to complete the guide

TKitch

11-01-2009, 06:30 AM

the google doc lists all the stat effects and other bonuses that they give on each territory.

Bdawgfl

11-03-2009, 11:41 AM

Construction Company
Price:
$45,600
Income:
$1,475 per 180 mins. $518 per Hour
Max:
$17,700
Enhancements:

* 6% chance of critical hits in fights

Ice Pick Ogie

11-03-2009, 02:13 PM

Construction Company
Price:
$45,600
Income:
$1,475 per 180 mins. $518 per Hour
Max:
$17,700
Enhancements:

* 6% chance of critical hits in fights

Thanks. This has been added to the gdoc.

Did you adjust for real estate negotiator?

musichealsthesoul86

11-03-2009, 11:43 PM

one the first page it says 3 wine importers for max income.. i have 2 so when i go to buy the 3rd wine importer it says limit reached?

Ice Pick Ogie

11-04-2009, 08:00 AM

one the first page it says 3 wine importers for max income.. i have 2 so when i go to buy the 3rd wine importer it says limit reached?

No the max ownable for Wine Importer is 3, so if you tried to buy the 4th you would get the limit reached message.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-04-2009, 11:18 AM

Completed the information on the dive bar tier today.

Pizza Parlor max ownable is 4
Diner: price is 20,250, max ownable is 4
Strip Club price is 24,000
Risorante price is 19,350, max ownable is 3
Italian Bakery price is 36,000, max ownable is 3
Escort Agency price is 37,800, max ownable is 3
Fancy Nightclub price is 50,500, max ownable is 3

Ice Pick Ogie

11-04-2009, 11:25 AM

So I adjusted the max ownable for the Wine Importer from 3 to 2 today. I'm not sure if this is because I own a lot of importer income properties or if the limit is just always 2.

Can someone spend some cash and check the Wine Importer max ownable?

Ice Pick Ogie

11-04-2009, 12:09 PM

Since the slum tier is complete we can now determine the strategy to use territories to gain the energy achievement.

Health
B 200
S 500
G 1000
P 2000

Strategy:
Minimum level required: 58
Territories to purchase:
(3) - Ristorante (+100 health each, +300 total, $181,350 total cost)
(3) - Escort Agency (+60 health each, +180 total, $350,100 total cost)
(4) - Pizza Parlor (+50 health each, +200 total, $180,000 total cost)
(2) - Fancy Nightclub (+40 health each, +80 total, $237,000 total cost)

Total Health Increase: 760 points
Total Territory Cost: $948,450
Minimum Health Required: 1240

Note that a single stat point will give you +10 to health, so if you put 124 base stat points into health plus the above territories will give you the platinum achievement. Not sure what the starting value of health was.

Don of Montepulciano

11-04-2009, 05:42 PM

Another price for you.

Waste Management Co.: $61,600
Max income: $14,400
Max of 2.

Note that a single stat point will give you +10 to health, so if you put 124 base stat points into health plus the above territories will give you the platinum achievement. Not sure what the starting value of health was.

Starting health is 100. And 114 stat points in health is a waste in my book, not worth it for 2 favor points.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-04-2009, 05:59 PM

Another price for you.

Waste Management Co.: $61,600
Max income: $14,400
Max of 2.

Starting health is 100. And 114 stat points in health is a waste in my book, not worth it for 2 favor points.

Thanks. Do you have the max income #?

Totally in agreement with you on the health bonus...but good to have it in the guide anyways. Trying not to put as much opinion in the guide and just have the facts for people to make there own decisions.

That being said, I think with the fact that the hospital level goes up as your health increases, as well as the damage done in fights you don't really gain anything. The cost of healing is higher, the amount of fights you get before you are back in the hospital is roughly the same, and you really don't kill people or get killed less because your hospital level is higher.

Don of Montepulciano

11-04-2009, 06:20 PM

Thanks. Do you have the max income #?

The cost of healing is higher, the amount of fights you get before you are back in the hospital is roughly the same, and you really don't kill people or get killed less because your hospital level is higher.

Edit on post about a min after and added max income, you must have just missed it.

As for max health you would probably have less deaths since the attacker would have to have equal to or greater than your HP. It calculates damage based on whoever has less health. But idc about deaths since they added police badge, I went from 3 to 8 on the first day it was out (slightly better now since they increased FP cost).

Anyway, as you said opinion on health is not relevant for the guide, was just giving my 2 cents as usual. Keep up the great work.

crashnsmash

11-04-2009, 08:53 PM

So I adjusted the max ownable for the Wine Importer from 3 to 2 today

I would assume its three...

I have three olive oil and three tomato sauce

Ice Pick Ogie

11-05-2009, 07:39 AM

I would assume its three...

I have three olive oil and three tomato sauce

My current setup is 3 Fence Ops, 3 Tomato, 3 Olive Oil, 2 Wine and 1 Importer. It shows limit reached on Tomato/OliveOil/Wine importers. So the thing I'm not sure about is if there is a limit on collective importer properties, say 8 is the max for combined importer upgrade properties. Originally we thought Wine was 3, but I am definitely seeing the limit reached at 2. That is why I need someone to check if possible.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-05-2009, 05:51 PM

Thanks to LexLuthor801 we have the following information:

Factory max own able 4
Slaughterhouse max own able 4
Incinerator max own able 3
Cement factory max own able 3

Thanks for the contribution. The gdoc has been updated and you are on the thanks list.

eyeGore

11-05-2009, 08:06 PM

What's the max for meat-packing plants?

Ice Pick Ogie

11-05-2009, 09:02 PM

What's the max for meat-packing plants?

If its not in the gdoc then we don't know.

Trihang

11-06-2009, 10:26 AM

I've unlocked every territory but I'm extremely lazy... I'm thinking about adding info... but dun fel like it.

Adest Grim

11-07-2009, 02:57 AM

What is the income for each territory?

GMan6

11-07-2009, 06:37 AM

I bought a Fence Operation in Jersey for $119,000 if that is relevant to update the guide.

DxPanxD

11-07-2009, 08:24 PM

I've been using this guide for a while now, just now getting around to saying thanks though ^^¥

arnieboy

11-08-2009, 07:26 AM

wanna help you complete this excellent effort. here are the details of the sports arena at level 96

street thief

11-09-2009, 07:06 AM

income for resort casino lvl 99,1,011 per hour or 4,800 in 270 min
cost me 82/k in caymens.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-09-2009, 07:34 AM

I bought a Fence Operation in Jersey for $119,000 if that is relevant to update the guide.

Thanks, updated the gdoc and added you to the thanks list.

Can you please confirm the price was adjusted for any discounts??

Ice Pick Ogie

11-09-2009, 07:38 AM

wanna help you complete this excellent effort. here are the details of the sports arena at level 96

Excellent. Thanks for the contribution. The gdoc has been updated and I added you to the thanks list.

I updated the price to 90,000 assuming you had the RE Negotiator but didn't have landlord active.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-09-2009, 07:43 AM

income for resort casino lvl 99,1,011 per hour or 4,800 in 270 min
cost me 82/k in caymens.

Couple of questions before I post:
Do you have RE Negotiator or any class active impacting the price.
What are the enhancements from the territory.

Thanks,

Ice Pick Ogie

11-09-2009, 07:44 AM

What is the income for each territory?

Please follow the link in the first post on pg1 to the gdoc for complete information.

arnieboy

11-09-2009, 03:57 PM

Excellent. Thanks for the contribution. The gdoc has been updated and I added you to the thanks list.

I updated the price to 90,000 assuming you had the RE Negotiator but didn't have landlord active.
spot on with that, thanks again

arnieboy

11-11-2009, 08:21 AM

and here is the final missing block, the resort casino at level 99. hope this completes your document.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-12-2009, 08:51 AM

and here is the final missing block, the resort casino at level 99. hope this completes your document.

Thanks, updated the gdoc.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-12-2009, 08:56 AM

Thanks to LexLuthor801 I updated the Fancy Nightclub max ownable to 2, and added the Meat-Packing Plant max ownable of 3.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-12-2009, 09:03 AM

Open Issues:
We are very close to having all of the information for the territories. Below are the remaining items we need information. If anyone has any of this information please post up. Thanks.

Funeral Parlor - max ownable
Meat-Packing Plant - price
Weapon Shop - price, max income, max ownable
Sports Arena - max ownable
Resort Casino - max ownable

arnieboy

11-12-2009, 02:31 PM

Open Issues:
We are very close to having all of the information for the territories. Below are the remaining items we need information. If anyone has any of this information please post up. Thanks.
Resort Casino - max ownable

just one resort casino max.

dbruno

11-13-2009, 10:59 PM

BigAussieAL

11-14-2009, 08:35 PM

Bdawgfl

11-15-2009, 05:19 PM

Max ownable on the resort casino is 1.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-15-2009, 05:50 PM

I made flowcharts up from the info here and the wiki, I think this link should work http://www.lucidchart.com/documents/view/4afe5bd6-15e8-4bfc-b102-38c60af95e9f

If not, I'll export some better res ones and post em tomorrow.

While I appreciate members that take the time to put out information, I'm not sure what the difference is between this and the tree in the gdoc. Seems like the same things, with a different look and less information.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-15-2009, 05:54 PM

Not sure what to do with this info, but it seems like something that would help people.

I've been doing the High-Roller class mission Open a High-Stakes Gambling Parlor in Chinatown, and it requires 1 Bottle of Top-Shelf Liquor per mission.

The Liquor is loot from the Landlord class mission.

I ended up 20 Bottles short.

So now I have to change back to Landlord class to get the 20 Bottles, then return to High-Roller class to complete Platinum mastery.

Advice: when doing the Landlord class mission, keep going for another 20 missions after getting Plat mastery, it'll save you messing around changing classes later.

I had the same problem, which was really annoying....but I think this is really for the mission mastery thread. One comment, the number received will vary by player, so you won't necessarily need 20 extra. If memory serves I think that you need around 170 to complete the plat.

FatDragon

11-15-2009, 06:16 PM

I had the same problem, which was really annoying....but I think this is really for the mission mastery thread. One comment, the number received will vary by player, so you won't necessarily need 20 extra. If memory serves I think that you need around 170 to complete the plat.

251... I got 188 when I did the first mission, and someone told me 170 would suffice, so I moved on. Then I found out I was still 63 short...

Ice Pick Ogie

11-16-2009, 06:41 AM

thanks to ArnieBoy and Bdawgfl I update the gdoc max ownable for the resort casino.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-17-2009, 11:38 AM

Got all the information on the Weapons Shop today>

Price: 79,200
Income: 2,800/210min, 800hr
Max: 25,200, 3 max ownable
no enhancements

Louie Longhammer

11-17-2009, 11:48 AM

Looks like all the information has been gathered. Is there a link to a finalized version of the opening message of this thread? Or have i passed by it in the other 20 odd pages?

Ice Pick Ogie

11-17-2009, 12:08 PM

what exactly are you looking for a finalized version on. The first 3 posts on the 1st page should be up to date, and the gdoc is up to date??

Also, we don't have all of the information quite yet.

Open Issues:
The following is a list of information required to complete the territory information.
Funeral Parlor - max ownable
Meat-Packing Plant - price
Sports Arena - max ownable
Resort Casino - max ownable

Louie Longhammer

11-17-2009, 04:37 PM

that is what I was looking for (the gdoc that is). Sorry for not looking further into it.
Oh, by the way, Great Work! couldn't have done it better if I had time to plan out what I would want!

Freebro

11-17-2009, 05:06 PM

Thank you for the time & devotion you have put into a document so needed for me to advance in Mobsters 2. I just wish that I had found this earlier!

arnieboy

11-18-2009, 08:04 PM

Also, we don't have all of the information quite yet.

Open Issues:
The following is a list of information required to complete the territory information.
Resort Casino - max ownable

Think I posted this before, the max number of resort casinos you can own is just 1.

Ice Pick Ogie

11-18-2009, 11:35 PM

Think I posted this before, the max number of resort casinos you can own is just 1.

Yep, you did and I made the update. Just didn't remove it from the list.

Open Issues:
The following is a list of information required to complete the territory information.
Funeral Parlor - max ownable
Meat-Packing Plant - price
Sports Arena - max ownable

arnieboy

11-20-2009, 02:42 AM

TERRITORY REQUIREMENTS: Mission Territory Requirements
The following details the missions that require particular territories for completion.
The number indicated in parentheses is the number required to complete Platinum Mastery of the mission.

Cayman Islands
Launder Money Through a Nightclub ( 1x Fancy Nightclub opens at level 105)

Ice Pick Ogie

11-23-2009, 06:35 AM

RiskyFingers

11-24-2009, 09:52 AM

^ I was just going to post that one as I just opened it up this morning. I have your guide bookmarked on google.docs. It's by far the best one ever, very detailed and informative. :) Thanks for your continuous work on it. :D

I already gave you +10 rep, it won't let me until I spread some around but if I could I'd give you +100 rep :p

Ice Pick Ogie

11-24-2009, 10:18 AM

Eukaryotic

11-25-2009, 05:12 PM

Thanks and glad it has been so helpful.

As always if anyone has any recommendations for additions let me know.

i am level 27

should i sell 4 of my territories

and replace them with chop shops temporaily before other territiories are unlocked

or stay with my territories

at this point i am considering selling my 2 factories diner and gambling parlor

FatDragon

11-26-2009, 08:43 PM

i am level 27

should i sell 4 of my territories

and replace them with chop shops temporaily before other territiories are unlocked

or stay with my territories

at this point i am considering selling my 2 factories diner and gambling parlor

If you're aiming for defense, then go for it (but you should probably hold on to the Chop Shops if that's the case, rather than replacing them as new territories come out). If you're looking to boost your revenue at all by this move, though, it's not a good idea - the initial cost of changing territories usually puts you at least a couple weeks from making a profit from them, as compared to the territories you replaced. This is even more notable as you buy multiples of the same territory, since the price goes up significantly.

GracefulOne

11-27-2009, 12:02 AM

Hey guys, can anyone repost the google document? I lost the link when I switched browsers.

StudebakerMan

11-27-2009, 06:16 AM

THANKS for the work.. I know it took a while to put it all together.
Nice to see how each territory leads to another..
Is there a place somewhere that show what each territory is worth (tent it pas) as you progress up the line. Might help with knowing which to buy.
Also which one you HAVE to have to complete missions.
Again thats for all the work

Ice Pick Ogie

11-27-2009, 08:20 AM

To the last two posters the google doc is on the first post of the first page.

It contains all the information you are looking for.

fred the hitman

11-29-2009, 12:38 PM

thanks alot for sorting me this its a great help